April 2, 2026

Buccaneers, Birdies, and Breathalyzers with Ryan Succop

On this week's Dealer OOO, hosts Jake and Frank sit down with Ryan Succop, Super Bowl champion, former NFL kicker, and Frank's old teammate for a candid conversation about the unlikely path that took him from a small town in North Carolina to the biggest stage in football.

The vibe is classic OOO: no script, no filter, and a whole lot of war stories. Ryan grew up in Hickory, North Carolina playing every sport except football. Soccer, basketball, baseball, golf, the whole rotation. 

It wasn't until his freshman year of high school, when his soccer coach essentially volunteered him for the football team without asking. That Friday, he put on football pads for the first time, and kicked his first extra point, he was hooked.

What followed was a recruiting process that took him to South Carolina, a handful of kicking camps, and an offer from Auburn that almost changed everything. He stuck with his commitment to South Carolina, where coach Steve Spurrier had just taken over, and never looked back.

The Injury Nobody Talks About and Why it Actually Helped Him

Ryan's senior season at South Carolina was derailed by a torn rectus abdominis, a sports hernia that made it nearly impossible to practice, let alone perform at the level scouts were expecting. He gutted it out anyway, but had surgery two days after the final whistle, and used a late pro day to rebuild his draft stock almost entirely from scratch.

He ended up being the last pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, Mr. Irrelevant. The nickname carries a negative connotation for most. Ryan never saw it that way. The Chiefs drafted him, and he spent the next decade-plus proving the label wrong, five years in Kansas City, six in Tennessee, and eventually a Super Bowl ring in Tampa with the Buccaneers. Scott Pioli, the Chiefs' GM at the time, told him later that gutting through the injury instead of shutting it down actually worked in his favor. It showed a team-first mentality. Sometimes the thing that feels like it's costing you is the thing that gets you in the door.

Oh — and the Mr. Irrelevant bonus money story he told teammates for years? Completely made up. There's a guy named Kalen Reed out there who found out the hard way.

Getting Cut, Sitting Out, and Almost Not Signing with Tampa

After a knee surgery derailed his time in Tennessee, Ryan got released. He sat through an entire COVID offseason, got healthy but still with no takers. When Tampa finally called two and a half weeks before the 2020 season, he almost talked himself out of it. The doubt, fear, and a knee that wasn't fully tested, and the weight of knowing he was about to play with the greatest quarterback of all time on a full slate of primetime games.

He prayed about it, got clarity, called his agent, and signed. What followed was the best season of his career and a Super Bowl championship. His reflection on that stretch is straightforward: the adversity wasn't in the way. It was the way. Every cut, every bad game, every moment of humiliation prepared him for the moment when it mattered most. That's not a cliché when you've actually lived it.

Tom Brady: What The Media Never Shows

Ryan has a story that summarizes Tom Brady better than anything you'll read in a profile. Before a game against the Vikings, Ryan showed up early to get treatment from Alex Guerrero, Brady's longtime body coach. Brady walked in needing work done himself, saw Ryan on the table, and told him to stay put. "We're going to need you today. If you feel good, you play good." He sat down and waited fifteen minutes while Ryan finished. Ryan hit a fourth-quarter kick that helped put the game away. Brady found him after: "Told you."

That's the version of Tom Brady his teammates know. The guy who treated the equipment room staff the same way he treated his Pro Bowl receivers. The guy who made you feel like your job mattered because, to him, it genuinely did. The media wants controversy. The locker room tells a completely different story.

After Football: The Professional Athlete Golf Tour is The Real Thing

About a year ago, a guy named Tim Wilbanks got 130 professional athletes together — NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB and built something that looks less like a celebrity golf event and more like an actual tour. One tournament a month. A season-long money list. A championship bracket at the end. John Smoltz is the commissioner. A Houston energy executive is backing it. And the guys showing up to play aren't treating it like a day off.

You need a six handicap just to get in the door. Making cuts requires scratch or better. There are baseball players in the field hitting 200 mph ball speed with a driver — faster than Bryson DeChambeau, faster than Rory McIlroy, faster than anyone on the PGA Tour right now. A hockey player named James Wisniewski showed up to a recent tournament with a breathalyzer, clocked his ideal blood alcohol level at 0.12, and then proceeded to stripe it down every fairway. Tony Romo, who has won Tahoe, played and didn't contend. Mark Mulder, a multiple-time Tahoe champion, is in the field. This is not a charity scramble.

Ryan is second on the NFL money list. He wants to be first. Every bad round is a problem to solve. Every good round raises what he expects from himself. He told Jake and Frank it scratches the same itch football did for thirteen years: the preparation, the competition, the monthly scoreboard that doesn't lie. The leaderboard just has different names on it now.

And it's only getting bigger. A streaming deal with Netflix or Amazon is reportedly in conversation. A Japanese Ryder Cup, 16 of the best Japanese professional athletes against 16 Americans is already being discussed. Training rooms and physical therapists at every event. Rules officials in every group. Ryan said it best: you feel like you're playing in something real. Because you are.

Hunting, Kansas City, and the DNR Situation We Can't Fully Explain

If you want to understand the friendship between Frank and Ryan, start here.

Kansas City, mid-season. Andy Reid is running Victory Mondays, which means after a win the guys basically had two days off before they needed to be back. No kids yet, a locker room full of guys who liked to be outdoors, and the entire state of Kansas sitting right outside the door. They hunted everything from deer, ducks, and whatever was in season. It was, by both accounts, a genuinely great stretch of life.

Then one season, something happened involving Frank, a deer, and the Kansas Department of Natural Resources that neither of them fully saw coming. The details get introduced and almost immediately retracted. What did make it to air was Ryan's retelling of the moment Frank laid out his personal philosophy on the matter: "I'm Italian. Italians don't snitch."

Ryan says he knew right then Frank was his guy. Go listen, and fill in the rest yourself.

The One Word Ryan Would Put on His Career

Ryan defines himself as consistent. Same guy every day. Same work ethic whether the kicks are going through or not. Same effort in the weight room whether anyone was watching or not, which, if you ask Frank, included benching 275 on the incline press and reminding a stunned offensive lineman exactly who he was dealing with.

Consistent as a player. Consistent as a teammate. Consistent as a person. That's what he'd want attached to his name, and from everything Frank describes about knowing him for over a decade, it's exactly what he's earned.

tRANSCRIPT

OOO (00:01.152)

What is up everybody? Welcome back to Dealer Out of Office. You're Frank Zombo. I'm Jacob Burkle. We have a good one for you today. NFL former NFL kicker, Super Bowl champion, Mr. Ryan Suckup. What is up, man? How are you?

ryan succop (00:16.302)

Hey, what's up guys? Thanks for having me on. I'm doing well. How are you guys doing?

OOO (00:20.686)

We are phenomenal. Great to be over here. What did you say? Better than you ever could be or ever will be? is it? Dwight Fruit would say. Yeah. From the office. Yeah. Well, Ryan, we appreciate your time, And when we do these things, it's just kind of open ended. You know, we kind of talk beforehand of, know, what we want to talk about, but this could go completely off the rails and we could talk about nothing we talked about earlier on. So world's our oyster. But I think the big one that people like to start out with is the football career. So, you know,

how'd you start? Kind of talks about your journey, you know, from starting football up and through, you know, being a Super Bowl champion.

ryan succop (00:58.364)

Yeah, kind of funny actually. So I, I was sort of that kid. love love playing sports. Grew up in a small town in Western North Carolina and Hickory, North Carolina. And ironically enough, I played every sport except football. I never played football and I played soccer. played basketball. played baseball and I played golf and my freshman year of high school, my soccer coach in North Carolina football and soccer are both in the fall. And he's like, man, you gotta go see if you can kick for the football team. And I

kept telling him, was like, hey, look, I don't think so. Like I'm playing soccer now, I'm gonna play basketball in the winter, and then I'm playing baseball and golf in the spring, like four is enough. And so I told him no, and a couple of weeks later, he comes back up to me and is like, hey, I really think you ought to kick for the football team. And I told him no a second time. And then the third time, it was the first week of school, and I'll never forget it, I think it was on a Tuesday. And my soccer coach came up to me and he goes, hey, he goes, I talked to Coach Elder and I told him you'd be at football practice today.

So when you're a freshman in high school and your soccer coach tells you go to football practice, that's what you do. So I went to practice on Tuesday and then I showed up, I was kicking that Friday in my first ever football game. And I get to the game, I had no idea. I had to ask a buddy, because this is when you had to, you had like the girdles where you had to put the knee pads and the thigh pads and the butt pads. And I'm literally looking around two hours before the game. I've never put pads on in my life. I'm about to play a varsity football game. And I'm like asking my buddy, like, where's all this stuff go? Like, help me out here.

That's how I fell into it. won that game seven to nothing. I think I kicked one extra point and I was kind of hooked from that point on.

OOO (02:25.528)

So you you kick points in practice, like you were lights out in practice or what? Like you got just, they, was there any other option for kicker except you or what got you there?

ryan succop (02:35.865)

Well, I had messed around, like I'd always kind of messed around with doing it just with like some friends, like on a soccer field or something like that. let's kick this football. And so I went to the practice on Tuesday and I guess I did okay. I was, you know, not great or anything, but I guess I did, did fine. And then I went to the practice the next day and then that's when they were kind of like, Hey, like you're, you're, we're suiting you up on Friday, like get, get ready. And so that's how I fell into it. And, you know, it, obviously it worked out better than I ever could have imagined. And, just something I kind of kind of fell in love with and.

wanted to figure out how to get better and better at it and that's how I fell into it.

OOO (03:10.818)

What year was that, Ryan? Because then obviously you go play college football. Like how did they have, did they have enough time to like evaluate you and give you a scholarship to South Carolina?

ryan succop (03:19.609)

Yeah, so that was my freshman year of high school. So that was my freshman year of high school. Played all four years of high school. Started getting recruited. I think like after my sophomore year, I remember my dad, like I went to a couple of these like kicking camps that were, you know, in different parts of the country. And I went to those and did fairly well. And at that point, that's when I started getting recruited by a lot of schools and by my senior season, I think I was committed to South Carolina at that point and, know, had had, you know, not a ton of offers, but had offers from several other schools. And

OOO (03:26.029)

Got it.

ryan succop (03:49.615)

kind of knew at that point, like, I've kind of got a gift at this and wanted to pursue it.

OOO (03:56.472)

So general question, because you know, I'm a hockey guy, I'm a lacrosse guy, I'm golf guy. Recruiting wise from your experience, what does that look like? And is that any different from like a specialist type position? He's like kicking camps, not like linebacker camps, right? Yeah, for us, I mean, for me, how my went down is you have teams that are like, especially when you're at bigger, I was at a bigger school in Detroit, I would say, know, the Detroit suburbs, get scouts that just come to games and watch. You do go to some.

ryan succop (04:17.421)

So

OOO (04:25.868)

Like I went to like Nike camp and maybe Ryan did some of these as well, like Nike camp or in different colleges will hold these like different showcases, I guess. you can, you know, perform there, but then they probably put you on their radar and then they'll come and watch your games. And I got offered, I remember after one of just one of our football games and then central Michigan invited me to one of their games. Like following that I went to the game, Brian Kelly, who was at, you know, Notre Dame and always he was our coach at central Michigan offered me my scholarship.

And then it was different. Like I just kind of, once somebody believed in me, I was like, you gave me a scholarship. I'm going to central Michigan. It's like, I stopped taking other, not that I had a bunch of people knocking my door down, but, um, you know, was in Mac school and it just like, all right. No NIL then it was just like, you're coming to central Michigan. was like, all right, great. Um, so, so what does that look, what did that look like for you, Ryan? Was that very similar or was that just kind of, you go to more like specific kicking camps, specialist camps?

ryan succop (05:21.515)

Yeah, I think for me it was going to those camps went to a couple of the camps started getting some recognition from doing well at those

and actually, yeah, Frank South Carolina was my first division one offer. And it was kind of the same thing for me where they offered first. I actually, I'll never forget. Auburn came into the picture late and offered me and they had just gone 13 and O and they didn't go to national championship that year because it was 2004 and USC and Oklahoma also went, the other SC went undefeated and they got into the national championship. And I remember thinking like, wow, like Auburn just went 13 and O they just offered me a scholarship. I really.

Thought about doing it. Coach Frayer had just taken a job at South Carolina. I picked him up at the Hickory Airport. He came, did the in-house visit. Kind of made me feel like South Carolina was a good fit for me. And obviously I stuck with the commitment and really glad that I did. all worked out really well.

OOO (06:14.03)

But one thing cool about probably helped Ryan too is like normally soccer players are smaller guys. Probably the first time I ever tell you this, Ryan, but Brian's like a bigger dude. Like for a kicker, like he's probably one of the decent size arms and things, like, but bigger, bigger type kicker. Um, one cool story, Ryan is a prankster. So we're to get that out. Like I didn't realize this when I first got there, I probably have some stories later on. I'm just, he's always like figuring out a way to like tease you. it's

ryan succop (06:37.785)

you

OOO (06:39.384)

fun in a locker room. Like you need that. I, you know, we do the same thing here, but you need those. Ryan's a glue guy like that. And one of the good stories, but talk about his size is when he did go to the Titans, he told me the story like after, but there was like an old, an old lineman that came in, who was like coming to work out and Ryan had like 275 on an incline bench press. And, one of the old linemen, like one of these new college alignment came in and he had like 245 on and Ryan was like,

ryan succop (06:45.497)

Okay.

OOO (07:05.966)

Like I think he had 255 on or something. You're getting me wrong. You went in and took the whatever and then threw 275 on. You wrapped it for a couple of times. You're like, and I'm the kicker. Welcome to the NFL or something like that. And I walked away. Like, I don't know if you even remember that. He's coming to store. was like, damn, that's awesome. Like, like welcome to the NFL. I'm the kicker. Yeah. He's always doing his stuff.

ryan succop (07:15.161)

You

ryan succop (07:21.879)

Yeah. Yeah, I do. I remember that. tried to look our positions definitely a little different, right? Like it's different than playing linebacker. It's different than, you know, playing receiver, something like that where you're in on every down. So, for me, I always, enjoyed working out. felt like, I also felt like our position was like one where, it's like, if things are going great, everybody loves you. If, if you miss a kick at a crucial time,

I never wanted people to look at me and think like, he could have worked harder to make that kick. And so I always thought like, Hey, like build up some equity with the dudes, put the work in, let them see you working really hard. I just always felt like that was the right way to do it. And I just kind of loved working out. So I do remember the story you're about Frank and, yeah, it was kind of fun to, kind of poke the bear a little bit with some of those guys and, hopefully add a little motivation to them. Cause I don't think they wanted that getting back to the shrink coach that, that your boy over there was.

OOO (08:14.734)

We didn't

ryan succop (08:16.76)

That's right, that's right.

OOO (08:20.31)

So, so going back to the timeline, Ryan, it's documented that there's a certain nickname for you after the NFL draft. Kind of take us through, you know, that what you're thinking that process, like were you even was NFL like fully on your radar? And then of course you get drafted and then, you know, just kind of that whirlwind of how that all worked out.

ryan succop (08:41.698)

Yeah, great question. So I was in my senior season at South Carolina and I was off to like a great start, like the first four or five games. I was really playing well. I was getting like really excited about the opportunity to go play in the NFL. And I probably, I don't know, week four, week five, I started getting this awful pain in my abdomen and I didn't know what it was. Like couldn't get out of bed, couldn't do a crunch. Long story short, I had like a sports hernia or had kind of torn the rectus abdominis off the bone and

I didn't know what to do. There's seven or eight games left in my senior year I want to play. End up like kind of doing what we all do, taking the toward all shot before every game, tried to play, couldn't really practice during the week because it was so painful. And long story short, had a really bad seven, like my last seven or eight games like didn't go well. I missed a ton of kicks. I remember like feeling so like being like, you you kind of feel sorry for yourself. Like why is this happening now?

You know, I mean, I've been so good for my last three, four years here at Carolina. Like, why is this going to happen? My senior season and, know, probably prevent me from pursuing my dream of playing in the NFL. Um, and I remember it was kind of wild because I, I played the rest of that year. played in the bowl game and then like two days after the bowl game, I flew to Philadelphia. got the surgery with Dr. Myers. And thankfully the pro day at South Carolina that year was really late. It was like at the end of March and it gave me just enough time to recover from the surgery. And I had a really good pro day.

And from that point, I started getting interest again, because a lot of scouts saw me. I think word had kind of gotten around like, Hey, this is what he was dealing with. And in a weird way, like it actually probably benefited me a little bit because I never had this conversation with Scott Pioli, who was the general manager in Kansas City that ended up drafted me. And I remember one of the things he said was that like, Hey, we actually like, we love the fact that like, you didn't just go get surgery in October and like, get it fixed. Like you tried to gut it out for the team. It kind of showed like a team first mentality.

And even though like I didn't play as well as I wanted to, in their eyes, was kind of a positive to, know, that I wasn't gonna quit or something like that. And so that was really cool. Got into the draft, didn't know what was gonna happen. I kinda thought I'd maybe be signed as an undrafted free agent. And I'll never forget getting that call with, you know, like five minutes left in the draft right before you saw it on TV. And it was, you know, the chief saying, hey, we're gonna take you with this last pick. And it was just an awesome feeling. It was like, you know, a lot of people.

ryan succop (10:58.997)

they hear the name Mr. Irrelevant, they can kind of think, this is sort of has a negative connotation. Like this guy's not gonna really do anything. And for me, I always looked at it as a positive. Like I was like, hey man, this is like an opportunity for me to like go pursue my dream that I've had for the last four years. And I just wanna try to make the most of it. So I didn't care what you called me. Like you could call me anything. And I looked at it as an opportunity. So it was really cool how it worked out.

OOO (11:24.217)

Yeah. And talking about how Ryan to like pranks, there was a period of time and nothing about Ryan's pranks is like, he's one of those guys that doesn't like make a joke and then like, I'm just kidding with you. He like lets you go on with it for like a long time. Like I remember asking him like, like, Oh, Mr. Relevant. Like, what is that? Like, he's like, Oh, it was cool. He's like, yeah, they give you like a million dollar boat. Cause like when you're like later in the draft picks, um, you know, like undrafted fridge and you get a small signing bonus, like a late round draft pick, might get, I don't know, 20, 30, I don't know. But he's like, Oh, sweet. When you're Mr. Relevant, cause they give you like a million dollars signing bonus on

Holy shit, like it's a million boxes for me to miss irrelevant. Like that was really cool. Probably let me go like two years of thinking that and then like I find out, no, that's not true. And then it's true as I was actually watching that. It's just a, what? What'd he say?

ryan succop (11:59.831)

Frank.

ryan succop (12:07.008)

No, it gets worse. It gets worse, man. We had a kid. I would always tell those guys, I'd be like, man, they like, hey, what's it like being Mr. Relevant? And like there were some of it that was true. Like you really did go to Disney World. They do have a week for you out in Newport Beach, California. Like they actually do give you like a ton of gifts and you do get all this different stuff. And people kind of hear about that. They're like, hey, don't you get a car? Don't you get a Rolex or whatever? Which like, I didn't really get any of that, but I did get, I think I did get a nice watch and got some other things. And it's funny because

people hear about that and then you just kind of throw in some stuff like, yeah, it's really cool. Like, know, Disney gets behind it. They give you a million bucks and because it's a gift, you don't pay normal income tax on it. And you know, you just start throwing in this stuff and, but it gets bad because we had a kid drafted in Tennessee that was Mr. Irrelevant when I was here. And the one of the tight ends was like, suck up, you gotta get him. Like you gotta get him. You gotta tell him he's getting a million bucks and all this stuff. And so like I go through the whole shebang with them, the whole deal, dude, I've never felt worse in my life.

OOO (12:59.822)

You

ryan succop (13:04.278)

I like it wasn't planned. just kind of forgot to tell him it was a joke. And he got back from a relevant week and he was like, I was like, man, how was it? Like, did you guys have fun? It's like, yeah, it was cool. Like, you know, we did this, we did that. And there was a lot of stuff that I had done. And then he's like, Hey, he's like, Hey, when did they send that check? And I was like, Oh man, dude, I felt so bad. And I was like, I think it was his name was Kalen Reed. And I was like, Oh, Kalen. I was like, dude, man.

I'm sorry, I forgot to tell you that was a joke, man. That's my bad. It was just like crushed. Oh, gosh. But anyway, that one, that's when I know, man, it's when it goes too far.

OOO (13:35.15)

This kid's like spending money like that money's gone. Geez. All right. if you're watching, sorry,

OOO (13:49.58)

Ryan, was actually watching that, what was it? Swamp Kings or something, the one with the Florida, Tim Tebow and all that stuff. And did you kick a game winner again to Florida to like knock them out or something? I could have swore.

ryan succop (14:03.453)

You know, that's the story that we could go with if you want to, Frank. like that ending a lot better than what actually happened. now they. you know if I never told you this?

OOO (14:11.202)

Dude, no. I'm su- Wait, could've thrown my watch on my own Ryan and kicks the game winner to beat Florida. Or did it was the other way in Florida?

ryan succop (14:19.99)

All right. Dude, so that was my sophomore year. No. That yeah, so we were playing at Florida and it was coach first first came back at Florida and he obviously had coached there for a long time and all that to this day is the loudest I've ever heard of stadium. But dude, I had I had a field goal with like three seconds left from 48 yards that was going to that would have won if I'd made it.

OOO (14:23.672)

Dude, dead serious. way I, in my mind, you said, would say Ryan Sucker kicks game winner against Florida to beat me. Maybe because it was cheerful on the Florida side, but whatever in my brain.

ryan succop (14:49.334)

And Jarvis Moss, who I don't remember him the big D and he got a hand on it. He blocked it in Florida one. And it was last play game. That place went crazy. Yeah, no, it didn't go wide right. was a yeah, either way. It didn't go in. But the bad part is, and this is you can go read about this Jarvis Moss had failed a drug test the week before that game and he was supposed to be suspended in Florida.

OOO (14:56.686)

Okay good. Alright, I'm glad it got blocked and it didn't go wide right. Okay, well I'm glad it got blocked and it didn't go wide right. Way to bring up old scars dude.

OOO (15:13.165)

You missed it.

ryan succop (15:17.467)

waited to announce it and they suspended him the following week against Western Carolina. And South Carolina fans like still talk about that how, man, we should have won that game. Like he shouldn't have been in there and that's how it goes, man. Such is is ball.

OOO (15:23.31)

Wow.

OOO (15:31.458)

Wow. Florida's a bunch of crooks. We'll find that out after everything comes out. Ryan, you're the second former teammate of Frankie Boy here. I got a, you know, obviously he's gullible. We got him on that one. But is there any good zombo stories that you want to share that would just, I want to laugh. I want something to hold over his head if I can do it. So what do you got?

ryan succop (15:36.072)

Try it. Try it.

ryan succop (15:59.58)

I mean, this is Frankie. I think of Frankie as like the ultimate dudes dude, right? Like whether it's like, you wanna talk golf, like he's gonna know a little bit of golf. wanna talk, hold on, hold on. You wanna talk hunting, like he loves hunting. You wanna talk cars, he's got like seven Mustangs, cause he's from Detroit. Like whatever, he's like the dudes dude, right? Like whatever you wanna talk about. But like, I think some of my favorite stuff when it comes to Frank, there's one story on here. I don't know if we can share it, Frank, just.

OOO (16:07.612)

You're building them up, dude. Wrong direction.

ryan succop (16:28.478)

the implications of, when we shot that deer that one time or you shot that deer the one time. the other one that comes to mind is when you were down in Charleston and you were grinding so hard on the range, you were getting into golf and you're like, Hey man, take a video, just take a video. I like Frank is over this ball. He's so focused. It's like the first shot I'm going to film him hitting. And he just like cold shanks this thing. And it was so mad. like, you know how he's like intense, like he tries really hard. He's really putting forth his best effort.

OOO (16:57.387)

Yeah.

ryan succop (16:58.77)

And then he just like cold shanked it. actually still, if I'm ever having a bad day, sometimes I'll just like go look at that video because it makes me laugh. Frank just cold shanking that ball in the driving range.

OOO (17:08.622)

Did he do the head thing still? Did he do the head thing back then? know what talking about? my game's way better than it is. It's way better now. Do you know what I'm talking about? You ever see him do it? All hold on. Let me get the camera. Frank does this thing with his head. He goes...

ryan succop (17:14.887)

What's that?

ryan succop (17:19.485)

Well, I can't see you. can't see you guys. How do I see you guys? I'm looking at just the sign.

OOO (17:23.31)

I'm gonna do it like, fix the camera, I don't know. I bring my head back so then I get more shoulder rotation. No, no, no, but you do this like, look at it. I don't know, you're like a chick, like you like do something with your neck and it's hilarious. You're crazy. don't do that. All right. In any event. That's funny. The hunting story was one where, I mean, we got in trouble. I got in trouble. I mean, we got in trouble for it. We, it was bad.

But yeah, I was, I don't know. We could edit this out. Yeah. was like all this, all of what you said can be edited out. You didn't realize how crazy the DNR is in Kansas. I'll tell you that.

ryan succop (17:50.343)

You

ryan succop (17:57.844)

I just remember that story when I'm like, Frank, we're like going through it, we're getting called by DNR. And I'm like, dude, what do we do? And I'm basically insinuating, like, Frank, are you going to say anything? Like, what are you going to do? And he's like, dude, I'm Italian. Italians don't snitch, man. Like, I'm not snitching. And I was like, all right, this is my guy. Snitches get stitches, bro. I ain't talking.

OOO (18:18.414)

No rat. I told the complete truth to him. didn't say anything about anybody, I basically just told him the truth on everything. I'm just going to spill the complete thing. Yeah. One of my one haunting stories I like about Ryan is when I first met Ryan, I got in there, I didn't really know a lot of guys, but I sit at a table and it's like a bunch of dudes wearing camouflage and I'd just come out of Green Bay and it was like you, Thomas and Cole quit.

So our long snapper, our punter and our kicker, you know, and I'm like, I sit down at like the breakfast table and they're like, yeah. I'm like, you guys hunt. We're talking back and forth. They show me a picture of some deer and they're like mega monsters. And I'm already thinking I'm coming to Kansas, like the land of giants, but these are ones that they're like, let's prank this new dude and tell him like these deer are on Coquit's property. And so I'm thinking these deer are on this property. So I'm in this blind, it's me and Ryan and like I'm sitting there and he's like, bro, bro, bro, that buck, it's coming.

ryan succop (18:55.348)

you

Okay.

OOO (19:18.476)

And it was like, he's like, I'm like, where? And he's like, it's behind, you can't see it. And he's sitting there watching me shake for like five minutes. Cause I think in this like 200 inch deer is going to come around the corner. have like my bowl like ready to rock. I'm like shaking and something like five minutes later, like, no, I'm just messing it up. That deer is not even in this, it's in another, you know, it's probably in Missouri or whatever, Wisconsin, but always mess around, always mess around.

ryan succop (19:28.797)

ryan succop (19:41.778)

Frank, we had fun, dude. Remember that year when we started like 13, we were really bad the year before, and then we started 13 and 0, or no, not 13 and 0. then we, right, and then we signed Zombo and we started nine and 0, because we signed Frank. But the good thing with Andy was that when you won, had Victory Monday. So it was like, was, hey, see you on Wednesday, basically.

OOO (19:50.606)

You guys were like two and 14 and Coach Reed came in.

OOO (20:00.406)

It's common denominator.

ryan succop (20:09.203)

And like, was, that was a fun season of life, man. Like we, don't think we had kids yet. It was a bunch of young guys and we would hunt hard, man. We would Mondays and Tuesdays during the season. Like we were deer hunting. We were duck hunting. We were, those were fun years, man. I, I look back on those with some good memories, man.

OOO (20:10.157)

Yeah.

OOO (20:26.104)

That was a great year because we had exactly what you said. had no kids. We were like rent a pontoon boat. Like camp was over. We had all the Italian. We had Anthony Fasano, Mike Catapano, Mike DeVito. There's a bunch of Italians on that team anyway, but we would hang out. Otherwise we're going to dinners all the time. We were hunting like crazy. We go get a workout maybe on Mondays and then we were just like hunting deer, hunting ducks, golfing. I remember Ryan beat us. He was like, Ryan beat me.

ryan succop (20:52.191)

Yeah.

OOO (20:56.622)

with a seven iron, just a seven iron. Ryan's a good golfer. He's a four, you know, plus four. And he's like, do think I could beat you on the back nine with just a seven iron, you know, getting out of sand traps, putting everything. Ryan can play. That's embarrassing. I wasn't as good as I am now. Now I wouldn't get beat by a seven iron, but I wouldn't come close. tell you that anyway. So we could, I want to talk golf, but I want to wrap up.

football because you do have a ring. You played with with one of the goats. Kind of take it like I know your football experience. I know your Super Bowl experience a little bit different. You were a little later on in your career. So take us kind of through like yeah, you're you're a vet. You're with you know, you know, TV 12 kind of what is that whole experience like? What is that? You know when in when look for all you guys.

ryan succop (21:49.464)

Yeah. So, and actually let me back up just a little bit. So obviously like I started in Kansas city. played what five years there played six in Tennessee with the Titans and this Frank and I were talking about this before going on the pod, but like, so guess I was in my 11th year and I ended up having surgery on my knee in Tennessee and just didn't come back from it like the way I was hoping to. And we always say NFL stands for not for long, not national football league. And when you get hurt and you don't play well, like you kind of know what's coming. And so

I get released in Tennessee and at the time I remember thinking like, gosh, like this just doesn't seem right. Like, man, I've had a, I had a really good run here and had some of my best years, you know, had one hiccup on my knee and it's like, man, you're, you're out the door. And I was kind of scarred by it and took that whole off season, you know, sort of got healthy, which was a blessing. And, um, I'll never forget. It was the COVID year. And so no, nobody's really signing anybody in the off season and like two and a half weeks before the season starts, Tampa calls me and they're like, Hey, like we bring you down for a workout. I'm like, all right, cool. So I get down there.

Like it's me and a couple other guys and the workout goes well. I'm like, right, they're probably gonna want to sign me. And then sure enough like that afternoon, they're like, hey, we want to sign you. You know, they offer a contract or whatever. And I remember like, it was probably like looking back on it, it was probably like some fear, probably some anxiety that was like dealing into the decision where it was like, I was just coming off a knee surgery. I didn't know how healthy I really was. I was about to be playing with, with Tom Brady, the, know, the greatest quarterback of all time. We were going have all these primetime games.

And like, I think I had some of that like doubt in the back of my head, like, man, am I still going to be the same player that I was, you know, previously? And so I was like going back and forth, I almost didn't sign the contract and I was just praying about it. Anyway, Lord made it very clear that I was supposed to be in Tampa. So I called my agent. was like, Hey, let's do it. Signed the contract. That season was just awesome. Like probably had the best year of my career that year. Even coming off the knee surgery, we go, you know, win the Superbowl.

so fulfilling, so rewarding, like just doing it with some awesome teammates, some awesome coaches. And I look back at that and it's like one of these cool moments where it's like, man, I never would have been in that situation had I not gone through the adversity that I went through the year before coming off the knee surgery. know, having all the disappointment that I had where I didn't play well in games, like dealt with the humiliation, dealt with all the stuff that comes along with it. And so it just is kind of like a testament and something that I've sort of kept with me where it's like even when things aren't going well.

ryan succop (24:13.198)

man, the Lord's got a plan for you. He's going to figure out, put you in the best situation. And like when he, when you're going through that stuff, when it's not going well, like usually he's doing it to teach you something. Usually he's doing it to humble you a little bit. Usually there's like a purpose behind it. and so that was pretty cool just to see, the Lord's hand in it. And, you know, I, I got to learn so much from my time down there in Tampa. Like Tom was an unbelievable teammate. He was an unbelievable leader. Like, think everybody knows he's the greatest player of all time, but they don't really understand like what makes him so great. Like I'll never forget. He just.

He was always such a good dude. Like whether it was you were Mike Evans and you were the number one receiver or whether you were the dude in the equipment room, like folding towels, like he treated everybody so well, made you feel important, like made you feel valued. And I just can't say enough good things about him, man. He was awesome, great dude to play for. And those are some awesome memories getting to do that. And I learned a ton from him. So it's something I'm really thankful for.

OOO (25:08.29)

That's incredible. Really cool to hear that, especially about Tom Brady too, because I had a similar experience with like Aaron Rodgers. Like that was the guy who was hanging out with the guy in the equipment room. Like he didn't. So, you know, it's same thing. We had good quarterbacks, you know, Alex Smith, Patrick Mahome, you know, all those guys I had Pat when he was younger, but I'm sure he's like that. Just there's a reason why those guys are MVP caliber guys, you know, players because they're MVP caliber people too. Why does the media in your guys' opinion, right? You play with these guys, you know who they truly are. Like you see

ryan succop (25:27.606)

you

OOO (25:37.794)

bunch of bullshit about Aaron Rodgers. You see Tom Brady's the, you know, the devil. You see all this kind of stuff. Like what is it just because they need clickbait? Like what, why can't they just be honest about who these people are? What's your take Ryan?

ryan succop (25:50.576)

You know, I think obviously they want stuff that sells, want stuff that stirs up controversy. mean, you could probably say the same when you turn on the news now and it's like not even talking sports where you see stuff on the news and it just kind of is set to try to

OOO (25:56.685)

Yeah.

ryan succop (26:03.907)

pit people against each other, take one side, that type of thing. So I don't know, man, those guys were awesome. I'll tell you this, and this kind of sums up Tommy to me is I'll never forget my first year. had this guy, Alex Guerrero, who was the guy that took care of his body, all of his tissue work, all of his workouts, just like it was his guy. been with him for 16 years.

And Tom was like generous enough to let other guys work with Alex if he wasn't using them. And I'll never forget I'm driving. I would always get to the stadium early on Sunday mornings because I wanted to get all my stuff done before Tom came in. And I'll never forget, we're playing the Vikings one year and I get this, you know, get the stadium like three and a half, four hours before the game. And Alex just starts working on me. And guess Tom was like dealing with something. So he came in earlier than normal to get a little extra tissue work. Anyway, I'm laying down on the table and Tom comes in. And so I'm like trying to get up off that table as quick as I can. Cause I'm like, dude, I don't want to be in.

in Tom's way. And so I try to get up and Tom's like, no, no, no. He's like, Hey, take, take your time. He's like, man, I'll wait. And I'm like, no, no. I'm like, Tommy, Hey, look, I don't want to be in your way, man. Like I'll come back. Like you get, whatever you need to do. Like I'll come back when you guys are done. He's like, no, no, no, Ryan, I'm serious. He's like, I want you to, he's like, we're to need you today. Like if you feel good, you're going to play good and we're going to need you. That's going to help us win. So Alex is like, Hey, you heard him. So I like laid back down. Tom's just sitting there, hanging out, talking with us for the next like 10, 15 minutes as Alex is like,

doing some tissue work on me, getting me ready for the game. And I'm like, man, get this thing over with. I don't want to make Tom wait. And he was just like sitting there waiting. Sure enough, we go out. It wasn't a game winner, but it was like late in the fourth quarter, I hit a big one that kind of, I think made it like a two score game and kind of put the game away. And he was just like, hey, I told you we were going to need you today, man. And that was him. Like he would put his teammates, you know, before him. He was just, that like summarizes him. And I'll never forget that. Cause I think.

OOO (27:29.806)

You

ryan succop (27:53.036)

A lot of guys in his position could easily be like, man, you gotta get up, I'm here. And he like was totally the opposite of that, which was just, yeah, it was just really cool. So that's always stood with me, like how he treated people.

OOO (27:57.806)

Trying to get time in.

OOO (28:04.494)

That's awesome. That's great to hear. Yeah, I'd rather hear those stories. Those are stories you should report on, so in any event. mean, I'm not a huge fan. He ended a lot of my seasons when we were in Kansas City. It seemed like maybe three of my seasons ended at his hands. He's handsome as shit, I'm not a huge fan, but I like to hear that kind of stuff. He's a good dude. So, Ryan, I love the football, and I think what's cool about your story is, and I'm thinking of all your stories and what you've done.

ryan succop (28:13.486)

You

OOO (28:29.518)

I don't know what you would sum up. If you had one word to sum up your career, what would you say? Cause I have kind of in my mind, kind of what I would like resilient, the most resilient, one of the more resilient careers I've heard of. What's kind of something that stuck with you or what do you want, you know, your kids to learn from your career or anything like that. there anything specific that you want to take from that?

ryan succop (28:50.944)

Yeah, I like Brazilian because I definitely had my I had the ups and downs man like had the dealt with the injuries dealt with getting cut a couple of times. And then at the same time got to experience, you know, some of those mountain top moments as well. But I think probably through it all, I think one word that I would hope other people would say would be consistent, like and not just when it came to kicking, but like consistent as a dude, like work, try to work the same every week or every day. Tried to, you know, kind of be the same guy every day. I think that would probably be the word I would I would.

choose would be consistent.

OOO (29:25.154)

Yeah, I love that. All right. Now something that I'm actually good at. Golf. Golf. So did you actually get off with your swing coach earlier? Were you actually, were you legitimately with your swing coach earlier? Is that a joke?

ryan succop (29:33.07)

Let's go. Now we're talking.

Yeah.

No, yeah, yeah. So I don't know if I've even told Frankie about this. So basically, yes, I was working on my swing coach. So they have basically started this within the last year. There's a group that's gotten together and there is a professional athlete golf tour right now. And we have, we actually just had a tournament like two weeks ago and we got another one coming up here at the end of the March. But essentially we've got a hundred and maybe 30 guys across the NBA, the NFL, the NHL and the MLB.

OOO (29:44.088)

Damn it.

ryan succop (30:10.849)

And so basically you got like, you're, trying to get like the 30 best guys in each sport. we come together, we have one tournament a month. and it's, it's really cool because the way it's set up, you have about third, 80 guys get into each tournament, right? You have 130 that want to play only 80 get in the top 40 that finish in every tournament automatically get into the next tournament. If you're 41 through 80, then you basically have to sit out of tournament and those other guys that didn't get to play, get a chance to play.

And it's a season long deal where at the end of we play, like we had a tournament in December, we just had one in February, and then we go February, March, April, May, June. At the end of the June tournament, if you're in the top eight of the money list of your sport, so the top eight NFL guys, the top eight NHL guys, the top eight NBA and top eight MLB, those 32 guys make it to the first playoff event. And then after that playoff event, it goes to the top four on the money list of each sport.

So basically it's like a season long money list and you're trying to be in the top eight of your sport and then in the top four of your sport to make it to the championship event where you have the top four of each sport competing to try to win like the season long deal. And man, it's been awesome. Like we've got, it's been so fun getting to know all these guys from different sports. The competition is like, dude, it's legit. Like there are a lot of really good players. You you'll play.

you know, everybody will go hang out in the locker room after the game. And you got like the basketball guys talking to the hockey guys. You got the hockey guys talking crap to the, to the football guys or to the baseball guys. And it's just like the trash talk, the camaraderie of it, like it's a really cool deal. And so, yeah, I've actually been like really trying to chase it and trying to play well. And, so yeah, earlier today was, I was working with my swing coach here in Nashville and trying to get ready for the tournament we got coming up in about three weeks down in Mississippi. So, looking forward to it, man.

OOO (32:07.15)

I'm really upset, Ryan, because there was a time where I caddied for you in that San Diego tournament back in 2013. And I haven't, who's your caddy for this tournament?

ryan succop (32:16.864)

You know what? So some guys bring caddies. You know, some of the guys definitely bring their caddy to every tournament. I haven't been doing that because we are allowed to ride in carts. So you don't have somebody like carrying the bag, but a lot of guys will have a caddy to like help them reputs, get them yardages, that type of thing. And I've kind of been doing it myself. I hadn't really had a caddy yet, but maybe, maybe Frankie, you're my secret weapon, man. Maybe you're what I need to get over the hump because I'm kind of, I'm kind of right there, like close to finishing in the top 10 each week, but trying to, you know.

OOO (32:31.299)

Got it.

ryan succop (32:45.3)

Need to play just a shot or two better. Maybe I need to get you on the bag soon.

OOO (32:49.71)

Yeah, because you know, I mean, I would take your mind away from golf. We'll just be chatting about the ducks that fly by or also like, was that a mallard or a black duck that just whizzed by, know? I played in events with Frankie where he just where he just belittles you to playing better. He just berates you and beats you down until you start playing better. So that could be against you. You know what mean? That's why I that was an irony. That was we were together. I actually have a lot of questions.

ryan succop (32:56.46)

That's right.

ryan succop (33:13.291)

There wouldn't be a lack of trash talk.

Yeah, yeah, what's up?

OOO (33:18.138)

So speaking of trash talk, who talks? I mean, I'm a hockey guy my whole life. We're pretty good at talking, talking shit. So who, who trash talks about between the four big sports?

ryan succop (33:26.741)

Yeah.

ryan succop (33:30.379)

All right, so the hockey guys are definitely the wildest. I'll tell you that. Like the hockey guys, I'm playing with a guy in the last tournament, or a couple of tournaments ago. We get to the one hole, his name is James Wisniewski, I think, and Wiz is awesome, man. Yeah, do you remember that name? Everybody loves him. He's actually a really good golfer. Like he can really play. And we were on like the fourth hole. We were in like a match play then, I think. And he like gets something out of his bag and he's like blowing into it. I'm like, Wiz, like what are you doing?

OOO (33:35.886)

You

OOO (33:44.621)

James was next, yep.

ryan succop (33:59.211)

It's like, I'm like, is that a breath? He goes, watch this. And he blows into it. He tells me like what his number was, what his blood alcohol number was going to be. I can't remember what it was like 0.12 or something. He's like, watch this 0.12. I'll hit a perfect drives. He blows into it. It's 0.12. He goes, watch me pump this drive. Hits it perfect. And he's like, look, if I'm 0.14, no good. If I'm 0.10, no good. 0.12 is my, I play my best golf. And I'm like, this dude's an animal. And sure enough, that's like his caddy's job is to keep him right there. And uh,

played great golf, like he's really good. But in the hockey guys, man, they're, they're wild. They get after it. The baseball guys are probably the overall, they're the deepest. Like they have the most amount of really good players. Like baseball is a tough sport, man. They're those guys can crank a golf ball. Like there are some dudes that hit it places that like, there's a guy, Aaron Hicks out there, Aaron Hicks and Josh Donaldson that are like, I think Aaron played for a few teams. Josh played for a few teams, really good players. They're like,

OOO (34:39.918)

Really?

ryan succop (34:55.626)

They're hitting like 200 ball speed, 200 mile an hour ball speed consistently with a driver. And like, if you look at, if you go look on the PGA tour and look at like a Bryson DeChambeau, a Rory McIlroy, those guys are like the top end dudes on tour, like 190, 191. And these guys are hitting it like 200. Like there's nobody on tour that hits it as far as some of these guys do. it's, dude, they can play. I'm telling you, they can play. Yes. That's what's like so impressive is it doesn't, a lot of those baseball guys,

OOO (34:59.96)

All

OOO (35:03.502)

I was 185.

OOO (35:08.11)

190

OOO (35:15.63)

Are we keeping it in the grid though?

ryan succop (35:23.787)

It doesn't even look like they're trying to hit it hard, but they're just so good at like one. They're obviously great athletes, but also like they just know how to generate power and generate torque. And it's like, it actually like looks pretty effortless. And then you're like, Holy cow. He just hit that ball 370 yards and he wasn't even like swinging out of his shoes. It's, it's pretty unbelievable. So there's some really good players. It makes it fun. Yeah. Yeah. So it's.

OOO (35:39.598)

Yeah.

When you're 100 in.

Yeah. I mean, can they, can they hit that shot a little, little 75 yard or over the bunker to a, you know, a tuck pin or, mean, they got, they have all the shots.

ryan succop (35:55.146)

Dude, they're good. These guys can play. They're not just hitting it a long way. Like they can play. So you have to be... Yeah, so you have to be a six handicap or lower to get in. I'll say this, to make a cut, like if you're gonna finish in the top 40 and make a cut, I don't think there's many guys that are over like a one or two handicap that are gonna make cuts. Like there's a lot of guys that are scratcher better playing in this. the competition's real and...

OOO (35:57.484)

Okay, alright, alright, say no more. What's the average index? What's the average index, Ryan? I know you're well, but...

OOO (36:10.968)

I won.

OOO (36:20.526)

Wow.

Thank

ryan succop (36:24.052)

The thing that's kind of cool about it is like they're not necessarily going after, you know, the biggest, it's not like Tahoe, the event they have in Tahoe where it's like, hey, we want a ton of celebrities. We want the big names. This is more about like, hey, we want this to be about competition. And like the way it's all set up, it's all about competition, which I love because it kind of, I don't know, I'm a competitive dude and I just love to go out there and compete. It's given me something to work at and chase. it's cool because it's like every month you have a tournament. like.

OOO (36:37.592)

Good job.

ryan succop (36:51.218)

You get down one tournament, you're like, all right, man, what can I do better? How do I play better than I did the last week? And you find yourself just working at it constantly, trying to get a little bit better. It's honestly kind of scratches the itch of what we did playing football for a long time, except we're doing it on the golf course. And I'm pretty fired up about it, as you can tell.

OOO (37:09.998)

Yeah, who's who's at the top of the list right now? Like who's I mean, top, top 10? I mean, are you are you in the top 10? What are we doing?

ryan succop (37:17.225)

Yeah. Yeah. So it's, kind of done by sports. So like right now, I think I'm second at all the football guys. Um, so, you're, you're really like, Hey, you're, you're kind of jockeying to be in the top eight by the end of June and then in the top four by the end of that. like, I'm just trying to like, keep playing well, keep getting better, you know, put myself in position. But, um, yeah, the baseball guys, man, they're like Tyler Clippard. He's won two tournaments. He's really good player. Aaron Hicks is really good player. Uh, Joe Pavelski, the hockey player is a stick.

OOO (37:22.914)

Right.

ryan succop (37:47.077)

you know, he's really good. you know, yeah, yeah. so what's crazy about this is we have guys, we have guys that have won Tahoe, like multiple times playing in this and like Romo played, Romo played last tournament. I think Romo's won Tahoe and like, I don't know where he finished, but like, he's not winning these tournaments. Like in Romo is a really good player. So there's just like a lot of competition at this, which is cool.

OOO (37:47.404)

I've heard he's sick. He won Tahoe, didn't he?

ryan succop (38:12.553)

Mark Molder is another guy that pitch. I think he's won title like three or four times. Really good player. So it's pretty cool to see those guys and get to compete against him and there's a lot of good players.

OOO (38:25.666)

Do you guys have any matches like farther north later, like in closer to summer, like Michigan, Wisconsin, anything like that?

ryan succop (38:30.665)

We have one, I think August is going to be in New York. I got to look exactly where it is, but I think it's in New York. that's, think that's, I don't know how it's probably not too close to you guys, but there was talk about us going to Ohio. And I think that maybe got, got changed to a different location.

OOO (38:53.19)

Who sets this up? This is like the NFL, PA, NBA, PA. They kind of set that up with you guys? Who runs it?

ryan succop (39:01.497)

No. Okay. So there's a guy, there's a guy that founded his guy named Tim Wilbanks and he is out of Alabama. And I think it's kind of been his idea for a long time to want to do it. He was able to go. So John Smoltz, the pitcher for the brave, you remember John Smoltz, John is, he's a really good golfer by the way. And he plays on the tour and he also serves as commissioner. So Smoltz is the commission. Tim Wilbanks is like the founder and CEO. And then they were able to get a guy, Robert Blevins out of who I think owns a big.

oil and gas company out of Houston. And he's like really backing the thing because it's like, like you go to these tournaments, it is like really well done. Like there's a, there's a pretty decent person each tournament that like all you have a training room, you have PTs there, stretching you, you've got recovery set up, you've got, I mean, it's like a, you feel like, I don't know what it feels like to play in a PJ Thor event, but it like feels like you're playing in like a real event. Like it's, it's pretty cool. So they're like really doing it right. The guys love it.

And it's cool because you're kind of getting to know the guys and compete against them, you know, once a month now. And so it's like, I don't know, you kind of get to know all the guys from different sports and they're, yeah, I think, I think a network deal is probably in the cards within the next year is what it sounds like where it's going to be. You know, you, might start seeing this on like a Netflix or an Amazon prime or something like that, where, you know, one of those companies, like a streaming service kind of picks it up. I think that's sort of the goal right now. But it's.

Man, it's awesome. We're loving it. We're having fun playing in it. And it's been pretty cool.

OOO (40:31.468)

It is neat. That's incredible. watching that because it's like watching, like, I mean, obviously they're really good, but you're not, you're not, you can watch them bad slices or something every once in a while. I imagine, you know, to that, maybe, I don't know. Yeah. There's probably some six handicaps in there too that are probably messing up every once in a while.

ryan succop (40:50.504)

100%, 100%. It would definitely be relatable to, you know, your everyday golfer.

OOO (40:57.272)

my game is it it four rounds like what's the match play stroke play three day.

ryan succop (41:01.626)

Yes, three day tournaments. Yes, three day tournaments. It's it's it's well, it's like stable for but so basically stroke play, but it's like, you know, you get two points for a par four points for a birdie and then, you know what one one point for a bogey and minus one for a double or worse. So the good thing is like the worst you can make is a double bogey because you kind of pick up after that. But

And that's kind of helpful just for speed of play because you're going to have some guys that are going to make some big numbers and you don't want them like slowing down the tournament. So essentially it's a stroke play tournament.

OOO (41:38.892)

And there's like rules officials. I mean, it sounds like, you know, not that you guys are all respectable human beings, but like, yeah, like, mean, sometimes the rules of golf, even, you know, what is this, you know, as a club length, no further, like, I mean, unless you're professional professional golfer, you don't know the full book all the time. Right. So are there guys out there walking with you?

ryan succop (41:56.187)

You know, you're right. Yeah, you have like you have a score in each group and then the others rules official. So like if you have any questions, a rules official will come over, you know, make sure you're doing the right way. I'm telling you, it's like really well done. Like you feel like you're playing in a real deal golf tournament, which is which has been cool.

OOO (42:14.678)

And you have to be a former a former player. Jake wants in. Jake wants in. No, it's like the criteria like you.

ryan succop (42:17.947)

Yeah, yeah, you have to have played.

Yeah, you have to have played, I don't know exactly the number of seasons, but you have to have played a certain amount number of seasons in either the NHL, NBA, MLB or NFL. And then they actually, last couple of tournaments, they had a little subcategory for like, we've had a couple of soccer guys and a couple of tennis guys, like Marty Fish actually, tennis guy, a stick. He's a really good player. like Taylor Twelman is a soccer player that's really good too. So they're starting to let some of like the really good players from the other sports get in.

But like, actually this last tournament, you know, there was a Japanese contingency there and they basically were checking it out and they were like, hey, we want to do like, we want to get the 16 best Japanese professional athletes and do a Ryder Cup against the 16 best American athletes. you know, so there's talk of like, what are we going to do? Are we going to meet in Hawaii and have a Ryder Cup or, you know, that type of thing. I think there's some possibilities like that that may happen. So.

We'll just kind of see what happens there, but a lot of cool stuff you can do with it and man's kind of taking off right now.

OOO (43:28.462)

And you can booze on the chorus then too,

ryan succop (43:32.43)

Apparently, apparently you can. mean, I'm no, I'm. Yeah, it was Niska. Yeah, I mean, Frank, you know, I'm you know, I'm over there hydrating man. I'm drinking my electrolytes. I'm drinking my waters. You know, I'm trying to be primed for competition just just like you'd be proud of, know.

OOO (43:32.812)

Yeah, are you boozing? you boozing on the court I mean, not necessarily you, but Wienewski, apparently, he can.

OOO (43:50.718)

huh. Not me on the golf course. I need a couple of drinks to me. I'm like that. I need to be like, maybe I need to be have one of those breathalyzer and be right at a one point two. Maybe that's my sober Frank can't play golf. But buzzed up Frank is not terrible. A buzzed up Frank is a, is a, is a problem out there. He could catch fire. can catch fire. Yeah. Or I could implode. Anyway. Well, awesome. Well, Ryan, so all right, we got golf. What else? I mean, hunting. what else do you want to cover, man? Cause I mean, I think we've hit

ryan succop (43:54.756)

Ha ha ha ha.

You

ryan succop (44:07.545)

You watch out. gotta watch out.

OOO (44:19.512)

Kind some of the big ones. Are you hunting anymore, Ryan?

ryan succop (44:23.088)

You know, I would love to go. I really hadn't been going a ton. I need to honestly, I need to get out there, man. I've been playing a bunch of golf. We've been doing a bunch of family trips. Like we actually were out West skiing a couple weeks ago, which was really fun. Just doing stuff like that with the kids, but haven't hunted a ton lately. So need to need to get back into it, man.

OOO (44:43.938)

Yeah, we do. need to have like a reunion back and get down in Kansas City, stay at Clint's place. And we had to set up.

ryan succop (44:49.317)

It'll be fun, I was actually, I literally was, Paige and I were cleaning the garage out yesterday, because it was like, finally had some good weather here in Nashville. And I literally was like, cleaning that, I had like three or four bows in the garage. And I was like, man, I can't remember the last time I shot one of these things. So that'd be fun to find a weekend or a couple of days and get the boys back together, man. That'd be awesome.

OOO (45:14.093)

question about it.

Well, Ryan, yeah, I mean, I was awesome. I appreciate the insight on your life and everything and how it took to get there and all of our past war stories. Yeah, that's all we got. That's all we got. We appreciate the time. Yeah, it's cool.

ryan succop (45:30.821)

That's right, boys, thanks for having me on, man. This is cool. I'm proud of you guys. And Frankie, want to hear about the business you guys started at some point. We got to catch up. hear about that.

OOO (45:37.198)

Thank

OOO (45:43.854)

If you need any vehicles moved, I'm your guy. And if you know anybody dealership space that is moving vehicles, send them my way as well. Yeah.

ryan succop (45:51.941)

I have somebody I may need to connect you with on that.

OOO (45:57.408)

Love that. Would love that. love that. Awesome. Well, Ryan, again, thank you for the time, dude. We appreciate you coming on and giving us a little background in your life there. And yeah, thank you so much.

ryan succop (45:59.247)

So.

ryan succop (46:11.531)

Awesome, man. I appreciate it, guys. Y'all be good.

OOO (46:15.064)

See you, Likewise.

ryan succop (46:15.961)

See you boys.