Questioning everything and raising nine kids with Glenn Lundy
This week on Dealer OOO, hosts Frank and Jake sit down with Glenn Lundy, founder of the 800% Elite Automotive Club, for a wide-ranging conversation that moves from dealership growth and leadership habits to Glenn’s unapologetic curiosity around the stories we’re all told.
The long road to “800%”
Glenn’s story starts in 1999 with a newspaper ad that promised $5,000 a month guaranteed. He called the number, showed up for an interview, and walked into the car business at a Nissan/Subaru store in Flagstaff, Arizona.
Over eight years, Glenn climbed from sales to leadership, but he describes that season as a rough one—professionally stagnant, personally chaotic, and ultimately unsustainable. After a break from the industry and a reset in his personal life, he returned to a dealership with a different mindset: instead of letting the dealership take from him, he was going to pour into the store, the people, and the process.
That shift produced the kind of results Glenn is now known for: he’s widely associated with helping grow a dealership from roughly 120 vehicles a month to 850 vehicles a month in under six years, a story that became the foundation for the “800%” brand and community.
Doubt shows up daily, so the system has to be daily
Frank asks a question that hits anyone who has ever chased something hard: what do you do when doubt creeps in—whether it’s trying to make the NFL, trying to become a GM, or trying to build something new in vehicle logistics?
Glenn doesn’t pretend doubt disappears. He says it shows up every day, so he built a morning routine that meets it every day. He walks through his “Morning Five” system:
- Don’t hit the snooze button
- Don’t touch your phone first
- Write down gratitude and goals
- Take care of the physical
- Send an encouraging message
The bigger point is discipline over vibes: Glenn draws a line between doing things “consistently” (which can mean anything) and doing them “daily” (which means exactly one thing).
“Question everything,” even if it gets uncomfortable
Then the episode takes a sharp—and intriuging—turn into conspiracy theories. Glenn and Jake riff on everything from calendars and the “new year” to the moon landing and the shape of the earth. Frank, self-admittedly not a conspiracy guy, plays the role a lot of listeners probably relate to: even if some of this is true, why spend energy on it?
Glenn’s response isn’t about proving any single theory right or wrong. Instead, he explains that the real issue is unquestioned acceptance. His perspective is rooted in curiosity, not certainty. He believes most people are taught what to think, not how to think, and that repeated narratives—especially when delivered with confidence—are rarely challenged.
For Glenn, questioning assumptions is a habit. He talks about how easy it is to absorb information without examining it, and why he intentionally slows down to ask why something is presented the way it is. Whether listeners agree with his conclusions or not, the underlying message is consistent with the rest of the episode: growth, in business and in life, starts by challenging default thinking instead of operating on autopilot.
Out of office: family, “zone defense,” and investing at home
As the father of nine kids, Glenn doesn’t only have a busy work life, he also has his plate full out of the office. Glenn describes his home life as “zone defense” because he and his wife are outnumbered by kids. When he’s home he prioritizes being present, paying attention, and treating time at home as an investment with a return (strong relationships, a stable household, and kids who feel seen and heard).
It’s a fitting close: the theories may spark debate, but the takeaway is clear—build systems, stay curious, and lead on purpose.
tRANSCRIPT
Glenn: [00:00:00] I don't know that the earth is flat. I know that none of that is real. None of it makes sense. If we're traveling through space at millions of miles an hour, why do we see the same stars that we've always seen?
Frank: Welcome to Dealer Out of Office. We're your hosts. I'm Frank Sambo.
Jake: I'm Jake Bele, and we are here to talk to you about dealer's interests outside of the office.
Frank: Now watch this draft.
Jake: What is happening everybody? Welcome to Dealer out of office. Uh, I'm your host, Jake Burkel. Alongside my good buddy, Frank Zobo. Um, got a good one for you today. A, a guy who is one of the most fascinating individuals, who brings an incredible amount of energy to everything [00:01:00] he does. Um, and, and purposeful energy, I think is a good one for this guy.
Jake: He pours into his, uh, into his community, into his friends, into his work, um, more than anyone I've ever seen. Um, and it's been a pleasure working with him for about, I think, the past two years now. So, um, without further ado, Mr. Glenn Lundy. What's up dude?
Glenn: Hey. Hey guys. Uh,
Jake: just discredit me right off the rip.
Jake: There he goes.
Glenn: Good to be here man. Good to be here now. What's up, man? Super excited. Let's go. I love that you guys are doing this.
Jake: Yeah. Something different, right? So we want to talk about, obviously, you know, quickly we'll give, uh, you know. In, in the way in which we met Glen. Um, you know, we are a part of, uh, 800% Elite Automotive Club where Glen is the founder, CEO and, and man with the plan.
Jake: Um, really quickly, Glen, like, give us a, a brief background because I know, you know, 800% is [00:02:00] a, is a, a movement. It's a huge thing. So give us a little background on that and then we can dive into, um, you know, some of that, uh, dealer out of office stuff we want to get to.
Glenn: Yeah, man. 800% club is real simple, man. It's just a community of like-hearted individuals who are looking to grow and scale their dealerships. So we get to, we get together weekly. We have training material, we have events that we do together. Um, and a lot of what we talk about is obviously around the car dealership itself. Um, but there's also a huge aspect of personal development and the individual growth of leaders.
As we grow as individuals, our businesses can't help but grow as well. So that's what 800% club's all about, man.
Jake: No, it's been a pleasure to be a part of. Frank and I have been on some. Some very cool experiences with you guys. So we're, we're looking forward to, uh, to keeping it going from there.
Frank: Uh, one thing I was gonna say, we've done some, Glen, I'm kind of interested, and I don't know if I know this about you, and if you wanna be brief, however you wanna go, brief whatnot. How did you get [00:03:00] into this space? How did you become a dealer? How did that start for you?
Glenn: Yeah, so, um, I'm a little older, Frank, so we gotta go back in time just a little bit. But in 1999. In 1999, I was working at Sterner and Klein, which was a call center for a OL. Do you guys know a OL? Are you old enough to know a OL?
So people would cancel their A OL accounts and I would call 'em up and say, bro, you gotta get back on a OL. And I'd give them six months free or whatever to get 'em back. And it was miserable. It was a terrible, terrible job. Um, but it taught me a lot of, of, uh, taught me how to handle rejection, that's for sure.
And one day I was in the break room and in the newspaper I saw a ad that said, make $5,000 a month guaranteed. And there was a phone number, that's all it said, make five grand a month, guaranteed. And I thought, bro, if I could make $5,000 a month, like [00:04:00] that's it, man. I'd be the guy. And so I called the phone number and uh, I said, is this real?
And they said, yeah, come in for an interview. And so they gave me an address and when I pulled in, it was Planet Nissan Subaru in Flagstaff, Arizona. And so I pulled in, I interviewed, they hired me on the spot. I, I invested eight years of my life in that dealership. And, uh, over those eight years, Frank, the dealership grew zero.
Like I went from sales to finance to sales manager, to general sales manager, but the dealership itself never grew. And my life outside of work just went to, went to pot. Like it was, it was terrible. I don't know if you cuss on this podcast or not, but the, uh. Yeah. Alright. It went to shit man. It went to shit.
Yeah. There you go. And, uh, there it is. And, um, and so I got out of the car business after that. 'cause I mean, literally for me it was, it was rough, man. I went to jail [00:05:00] in and outta jail. I lost custody of my oldest daughter. I, um, I was drinking a lot, like just doing stupid stuff. And so I got out of auto for a period of time.
I went through a little season of my life where I kind of hit rock bottom. Moved to Paris, Kentucky where I met my wife. We had a child together and she was like, yo, bro, you gotta do something. And the only thing I really knew how to do was, was sell cars. So I went into another dealership. Um, but this time I decided that instead of the dealership having a negative impact in my life, I was gonna have a positive impact on the industry.
And so I started at that dealership in sales. Went from sales to sales manager, general sales manager, and ultimately the gm. And in that dealership we grew 800% in just under six years. We went from selling 120 cars a month to selling 850 cars a month out of a small town population, 9,600 people. So [00:06:00] that was gravy.
Life was good. Um, I was making great money. I was running that dealership. And then my wife was pregnant with our seventh kid. yeah, I think it was seventh. She was pregnant with our seventh kid. And I decided, I, I don't wanna say I decided, um, literally God spoke to me and he said, Hey man, you can stay right here and everything's gonna be awesome or follow me and let's see how far we can go.
And so I walked outta that dealership in October of 2018. And fast forward, I built 800% club, um, did some other things, so on and so forth. And now, now here we are, man. So I'm on this side of auto now, but I've been in auto since 1999 with a small break in the middle.
Frank: Love it. So, and again, I don't, this is kind of off script or whatnot and I know Jake's gonna get into some juicy stuff.
Um, recently this has come up to [00:07:00] me in my, my, I've just been thinking about, there's a college athlete I've been working with for some time. And, um, he's working to become, you know, get a shot in the NFL. And um, I have another agent that wants to chat with him or is gonna ask scouts about what they think, and I'm nervous about what the scouts are gonna think and then him here something negative.
'cause he's really, I think he has a strong chance, I think he thinks he has a strong chance, but if all of a sudden the scout were to tell him like, eh, it's really not your thing. And a little bit of doubt creeps in. Sure. Or, and I, we, we interviewed a, a Navy Seal one time before this, and I have another Navy Seal buddy.
And I think about when, um, doubt starts to creep in, and I even thought about it in my own aspect of when I was trying out for the Green Bay Packers and you start to read into what people say like. Not people who aren't even experts, you know, people who just write and they, oh, this guy's from a smaller school at Central Michigan.
He ain't gonna make it. You know, he's going up against guys from Big [00:08:00] 10. And then you read about it and the self-doubt starts to creep in. How many times in your career when you were trying to be a GM of a store or, or 800% you're starting a new business up, we'll be like, ah, that ain't gonna work. And, and even for us, we're in startup mode at Auto Holler Exchange.
That ain't gonna work. How many, how many times is doubt crept in? And then how do you think about it and stay positive and succeed? You know, I was able to make the Packers, you're able to build a business grow 800%. What do you think got you to that?
Glenn: Yeah. So how many times? Well, I mean, I guess if you, I'm 47 years old, times 365 days a year, so whatever, 47 times 365, right.
Uh, ev every day doubt, doubt creeps in. It's, it's, it's literally an everyday aspect of my life and it, whether it be from the inside or the outside, there's always, there's always doubt there, especially when you're trying [00:09:00] to do something that matters. Right? Um, so for me, I used to live, I tell people all the time, like, I kind of have two, two, like, um.
I have before and after, right? There's an old Glenn and there's a new Glenn. Like I've lived multiple lifetimes in one life and I used to not have any systems or processes on how to, how to break outta that. But now I have a system that I literally use and every single morning I wake up and I do the morning five, which is five simple steps.
Never hit the snooze button. Don't touch your phone first thing in the morning. Write down your gratitude and goals, and that's one step. I know it sounds like two, but write down gratitude and goals. Take care of the physical, and then send out an encouraging message. So I do those five things every single morning and it takes [00:10:00] my doubt and turns it into gratitude for the seasons where I've failed.
It takes my doubt and it allows me to reflect on how far that I've come. It takes my doubt and reminds me that I am powerful beyond measure, right? It takes all of that doubt. By doing that system every single day, tapping into mind, body, and spirit, it foundationally sets me up to where the doubt exists, but it doesn't stop me.
The doubt is there, but it will not keep me from reaching and achieving. It will not keep me from striving and, and trying to be the best version of myself that I can possibly be. So it's there every day, but I have a system to knock it out every morning.
Frank: That's cool. And I saw that, I think you posted it on LinkedIn. Mm-hmm. That those five stages, and I actually thought about those because. I feel like at the start of the year, like January, February, March, I'm more, we were having a conversation about this earlier, like working out and [00:11:00] eating healthy, and during those times of the year, I'm way more motivated where like a snooze button does.
Like I, I don't ever hit a snooze, like I'm ready to go crush a workout and attack the day. I feel like I'm even a better sales person to be completely transparent. Whereas like right now, you get to like these law parts of like. Eating poorly. I feel like it all goes hand in hand because I'm not gonna lie, I hit the snooze button twice today.
Like, um, I'm eating poor. Like little things, like I feel like I'm not as good of a salesperson as I could be right now. Or a sales manager like it is, like, you have to like remotivate your and I, you're right, like it usually comes from me in January. So, and again, this is me just being, putting myself out there I guess, but like you're.
It does, it starts with that first thing in the morning and it starts with that snooze button.
Jake: You're doing a great job, buddy. Don't, don't let anyone else tell you differently. I think you're doing a great job. Yeah.
Frank: Thanks man.
Glenn: Um, two, two things around that. One, you gotta have a system. You know, anything done daily changes everything.
Just remember that anything done daily changes everything. I used to do [00:12:00] things consistently until I realized that consistently. Can be perceived different from by everyone. Right? If, if I tell you that I work out consistently, what does that mean? What's you mean
Jake: you, uh, frequently
Glenn: three, three days a week, five days a week?
Uh, once a month. I, I consistently work out once a year. Right? Consistently doesn't define anything. Right. If I told my wife, Hey, honey, I'm, I'm consistently faithful. She'd be like, what the, what does that mean, bro? Like, what does that mean real quick? No, no, no.
Jake: I'm get that shiner on its side. Golly.
Glenn: Yeah, that's right.
Right. No, no, no. I'm faithful daily. I do my morning five daily. And when you do things daily, it doesn't matter if it's January or April, it doesn't matter if it's September, it doesn't matter if it's Sunday or your birthday or a holiday. [00:13:00] It doesn't matter when you do things daily. That means you do it every single day, right?
Yeah. And that's what I found for me is I just, I had to get away from doing things consistently and go to doing things daily and it really made a transformation in my life. Um, but I will also say. Uh, the other piece I wanted to add onto that is you talked about January being the beginning of the year, if you actually do the research, you know.
April's actually the, the beginning of the year, uh, they've changed our calendars so that a new year happens in the middle, the dead of winter and cold and so on and so forth. But if you go back a few hundred years before they changed our calendars. The new year used to start in April and we used to have 13 months each month had 28 days versus having 12 months with some having 31 some having 31 has 28.
Right, and it was all in cycles with the moon. [00:14:00] The moon cycles are every four weeks, so a year, a month, used to be 28 days, not 30 days. We used to have 13 months of a year, and it used to start in April when there was spring and life after people came out of the dark because they didn't have things like electricity.
So anyways, just an interesting. Conspiracy that, uh, has existed for the last couple hundred years, just so you know.
Jake: I mean, if that's where we wanna start, I mean, we can start there. You know, the, the thing again, Glen, like, so Glen and I have gone on on tangents and phone calls, like driving home, like on this topic and, and conspiracy theories in general.
Um, and that's something that like we've kind of connected with and buddy, we've had some arguments, I don't wanna say arguments, they've been, um. We can call 'em debate, what we call conversations, conversation,
Frank: conversations. Loud.
Jake: Conversations. Conversations, loud conversation. Um, so the, the big one, and, and I'm gonna leave this one up to you, whichever one you wanna start with, what's the one that is, is getting you going?
What's getting you kind of hot and bothered right now? What's [00:15:00] out there? And I think I know the answer to this one, but I'm gonna let you, I'm gonna let you start this one off. What is your biggest, what's the one that's like burning a hole in your head right now?
Glenn: I mean, there's so many, bro. It's, it, it, it's, it's. And they all kind of fit under the same umbrella. But I don't, I mean you got the Charlie Kirk thing going on right now. That was a bunch of nonsense. You got Candace Owen stuff going on right now. That's some crazy stuff you got. And we can go down flat Earth trails.
Jake: We can go into, okay, you brought up Flat Earth.
Glenn: 'cause that's when we disagreed on
Jake: we've disagreed on Flat Earth. So I, I have a hard time. Wrapping my head around the flat earth concept. I've been in airplanes. I've seen like, you know, I, you know what I think I've seen of, of curvature of the earth. Why do you go up, come down.
Glenn: Okay. So, alright. Look up right now. It's impossible to see the curvature of the earth at 30,000 feet. What planes were you up?
Jake: This is where, this is where we want to get to. Like [00:16:00] what, what is your, what is your, like I'm, I'm still open to it. I'm still open, but I just can't wrap my head around it, so. Floor is yours. Convince me the earth is flat. Glenn: I don't, I don't know that the earth is flat. Like in the, in the, like to put it in a box like that doesn't necessarily work. Okay. But here's what I do know. I do know, I do know that science is explanation. Of Earth, the solar system, how we're floating. Like we're, we're rotating at a thousand miles an hour right now, and we're spinning through space at 6 million miles an hour right now, whatever the number is, and everything's like flying around the sun and we've been to the moon and all that crap.
I know that none of that is real. I know that none of that is real, right? Like none of it, if you just look. None of it makes sense. Like if we're traveling through [00:17:00] space at millions of miles an hour, why do we see the same stars that we've always seen? Why is the North Star in the exact same position every single night for thousands of years?
Why can't you see the other side of the moon? Why is there a dark side of the moon? Because we just happen to be spinning at the exact same rotation as the moon that happens to be the exact same distance from us, which is the exact same distance from the sun to where you never see the backside of the moon.
Like it makes, it makes no sense. So, and if you look it up, if you do the research right, if you do the research, there's no photos there. I'm sorry, not, no, there's one photo. Of earth from space. It's called the big blue marble, 19 70, 69, I think is when this photo is from. It's the only photo, and it says on the photo on NASA's website that it's, that it's, um, [00:18:00] what's the word I'm looking for?
Uh, photoshopped. It's not an actual photo. It is photoshopped and it says, for scientific reasons. It's Photoshopped. That's what it says. So why in today's day and age when you and I have cameras everywhere, did you know there's 5 billion pictures that are taken a day with these things? I believe that 5 billion pictures taken a day, which is more pictures than have ever been taken in the history of all time, right?
5 billion pictures a day, but yet there's one picture of Earth. From space and then to top it all off, if you actually look up, go on your phones or wherever and look up what is the shape of the earth, they say that it's this helio shaped that it's not actually a globe, but yet the picture shows a perfect globe.
So I don't know exactly what's going on, but I know the whole narrative that they're feeding us is nonsense.
Jake: So Frank and I were talking about this earlier, right? And Frank [00:19:00] is self-admittedly not a conspiracy theorist.
Frank: I would just say, why are they hiding it from us?
Jake: Well, okay, that's the question that Glen
Frank: Glen and I had.
Frank: Like, and then why am I gonna spend time? Like, what am I gonna really solve it? And then I'm gonna waste a lot of energy and stress over it. So it's like, whatever, you know, like if they are lying to me, like so be it, lie to me like it's not affecting me either way.
Glenn: I can, we can go down that path a little bit if you
Jake: can, but that's the question you and I always say it's like, why like the moon landing?
Why do you lie about it? Right. We could go through like, you know, there, there's a video that would somehow, some way of, of landing on the moon. Who the hell took the video?
Glenn: Right,
Jake: right. Like you talk about like Neil Armstrong's boots, like they have the pictures, they have the footprint. Like you're telling me we had less technology than is in our phone back then than we have in the palm of our hand.
And somehow we, we sent guys millions of miles away into space and landed on another planet and had a phone with same technology we do is in our phone.
Glenn: And had a phone call with Richard Nixon from his office, right on a regular [00:20:00] telephone. There's a video of Richard Nixon on a regular telephone talking to an astronaut who's supposed to be on the moon with no delay, which is absurd.
Glenn: And we've never,
Jake: but at t can drop my phone call three times a day. On Earth.
Glenn: Yeah. But we've never been back. How does that work? Keep that in mind because that's what we do here in America, right? Like we figure something out and then we just stop. And we don't, we don't ever do it anymore. Right? Like that's, that's, that's the American way, right?
We don't deplete all of our resources destroying everything. No, we don't. We don't do that. The fact that they've never been back should tell you enough. About the, the whole moon landing.
Jake: And why do you think that in your, in, in the Glen Lty, uh, opinion, why haven't we been back? 'cause we never went in the first place
Glenn: because we never went, bro.Right? There's, there, there's a radiation belt that we, dude, if you watch the video, it's like this tinfoil little paper cup thing that they say supposedly went through. There's a radiation. There's a radiation belt. Look it up. This is all just stuff you look up. There's a radiation belt that we cannot pass [00:21:00] through.
It cannot be passed through. We do not have the technology to pass through this radiation belt, and they admit that. Where is it at? I'm sorry. This is news To me. It's like the radiation belt, 40,000. It's like 40,000, supposedly 40,000 miles outside of our atmosphere. It's called the, uh, the something belt, but it's this, it's this belt of heavy radiation that we don't have the technology.
NASA even says we do not have the technology to get through this belt, but we did the one time in the seventies, but we don't have it now 'cause we lost it all is what they say. They say the computers, everything got lost. That's literally their claim, that everything got lost and we no longer have the technology to be able to get through the radiation belt.
Glenn: So Frank, do question. I do find way
Frank: that we've never been back to the moon. Why don't we go like once a year, take pictures of it. Right, right,
Glenn: right.
Frank: Is is just a waste of time and money maybe, but we, we spend a lot of money, I guess, on other things. Like,
Glenn: I mean, what is nasa, what does NASA do? Elon's shooting rockets all the time, like trying to get to Mars.
But [00:22:00] yet we're, we're, we're not interested in the moon anymore. I mean, come on.
Frank: See.
Glenn: But now why did they do it? Why did, why did they do it? Well, that one was during Richard Nixon. Um. At that time, we were in a cold war with Russia and the whole, the United States was losing, like the sentiment of American citizens was that Russia was stronger than the United States and people were scared and they had kids hiding under their desks and they were doing, you know, all this crazy stuff.
Right. Apparently climbing under your desk will protect you from a nuclear bomb. I don't know, but that's, that was the state of the citizens. And so the government had to do something to show superiority over these other countries. And there was a space race going on at the time, and so landing on the moon was kind of our, um, you [00:23:00] know,
show of force or of technology, of advancement. Right.
Jake: And I mean, just to play devil's advocate and as a conversation piece, why wasn't Russia like, um,
Frank: it's false.
Jake: Nope. That's bullshit.
Frank: Yeah.
Jake: Like what, why have they been, I mean, why have they been so quiet about it?
Glenn: You know, if you wanna go down that road, let's go down that road.
Jake: I mean,
Glenn: we're here who, who, who says they didn't say it's bullshit?
Frank: I guess they could have, and they just limited to us, right?
Jake: Yeah. They just didn't tell us,
Glenn: bro, look at your history books. Did you notice that your history books in every story, in your history book, every invention, every uh, every revolution, everything, whatever.It was all Americans. Isn't that weird? Considering Americans are only 300 million out of 8 billion people on this planet. How is it that the 3% of the human population has done everything and nobody's done anything else? What's interesting is if you go to China, China's history [00:24:00] books are all about Chinese people inventing everything and coming up with everything and winning everything.
And in Russia, it's the Russian people that did everything right, like these books that we're programmed with from the very beginning. Bro, it's all. They call it patriotism. Do you remember? You used to have to stand in class and say, I pledged allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. Right.
They want you on the team, bro. They need you on the team so they can't tell you like what everybody else is saying. They gotta pump you up so that you can stand and fight for this country. And I don't blame him for that.
Frank: Back to back war. Champs right here. Undefeated
Glenn: USA. Yeah. I don't blame them for that. Right? Like that's what you do as a great leader, is you pump up your, you know, you, this is where, this is where we're great and we're amazing, and we're gonna shut out anybody that says anything different. Right? So every country does that. So why didn't, why doesn't Russia deny it? Who says they don't? Why doesn't China deny?
Glenn: I know. Have [00:25:00] you, have you been to China lately? I don't know.
Jake: No.
Frank: No. Would never
Jake: Yeah. Frank, Frank is, is undoubtedly the most patriotic person in this office. Yeah. I'm a close second. Yeah. Um,
Glenn: America.
Jake: But there's always the why, right? Like there's always the why, which we don't ever, we'll never know the answers to, but it's fun. In my mind to speculate. Right?
Frank: Yeah. Well, I don't know the answers. 'cause even Glen's got me already thinking
Jake: like, the answers are terrifying.
Frank: He got me a little bit with the stars too. It's like, why do I always see the Big Dipper in the same spot and but Earth
Jake: oh, I saw the firewood burning in that head of yours.That was, yeah,
Glenn: I know, man. Supposedly we're traveling through space, but, you know. Hey, um, here's another good one, Nick. Have you ever seen the sun and the moon at the same time?
Jake: Yes.
Glenn: Have you ever seen like the sun's up? Yeah. It's like eight, 9:00 AM sun's up. And then you look over here and the moon's over here.
Jake: Yeah. Yeah.
Glenn: How can the sun and the moon be up at the same time? Dude, if this thing's a globe. So what is China seeing on the opposite side of the globe? If you're seeing the sun and the moon, are they [00:26:00] seeing a empty sky?
Jake: Oh,
Glenn: because we never see an empty sky. How do they see empty skies? But we don't see empty sky.
Jake: Yeah,
Glenn: it's right in front of our face, bro. It's just, you get taught a certain way. Do, I dunno if you remember this or not. It's when I was a kid, they told me there was nine planets. That's what they told us in school is there was nine planets.
Jake: Right?
Glenn: Right. Now they say there's millions.
Jake: Well, Pluto got Pluto star
Glenn: pto. It just changes, bro. It's whatever the narrative is, it's all, but if you actually look with your eyes and then do a little bit of research like. It's right in front of our face.
Jake: So to be fair, you're not saying the earth is flat, you are saying it's not a globe.
Glenn: I'm saying it's not a globe traveling through space randomly at bazillions of miles an hour.
Jake: Okay.
Glenn: Now, from my experience, it's pretty dang flat. 'cause I've never seen
Jake: elaborate on that.
Glenn: I've
Jake: So you're saying, because I know you told me like you're flying, you've talked to your pilots, you talked to
Glenn: Yep, yep. I travel a lot. I've never [00:27:00] seen a curve. I know I'm a pilot. Um, I have my helicopter's license.
We learn to navigate on a flat map. There is no adjustments made. No pilot makes any adjustments for the curvature of the earth. Why, how, how do you navigate a ball without ever having to make adjustments in elevation for a curvature of an earth? It makes no sense. We, we are trained on flat maps. I can take my helicopter up into the air and I can hover.
Ain't no ball spinning below me. Like, it's not like I can just stop right here and let Canada work or, you know, uh, Europe work its way around. No, I gotta travel on it. I can follow, I can follow the sunrise. Um, you know, on a, on a, on a, on a flight from East Coast to West Coast. Like I just, my experience of it is that it's definitely more flat than it is round, but I don't know the wholeness of it.
I haven't been. All world. So
Jake: this might be a dumb [00:28:00] one, like the cos effect. He showed me a
Glenn: picture, so
Jake: Right. Like Like snipe. Like a sniper. The cos effect, like adjusting for that.
Glenn: Yeah.
Jake: I mean that's just sheer mass of the bullet and losing velocity then that's not really the curvature of the earth.
Glenn: Correct? Correct. If you take a ship, if you take a ship, right, you're on the beach. And you see a ship, you know how way out in the distance you can see a ship, like go, they say it's going over like the curve of the earth. 'cause it disappears. Like if you're watching it, it'll go, it'll go, it'll go and it'll disappear at some point.
Yeah. But then if you take, uh, binoculars and pull 'em out, that ship will come right back. It's got nothing to do with curvature of the earth. It's all, it's like a highway. If I look down a highway, you guys have done that in school, right? Like where they draw a picture and then you have that vanishing point at the top of the picture.
Like if I'm looking down a, a perfectly flat highway road, at some point it comes to a vanishing point where it [00:29:00] disappears. That's all that, that's all that's happening visually. Nothing's going over any curve that we can prove anyway.
Frank: Did you ever know this too? Take a if, if you shot a bullet out of a gun, out of a rifle that's perfectly perpendicular to the ground, and then you dropped a bullet at the same time, so you shoot one and drop one, technically they would hit the ground at the same time.
Glenn: Yeah,
Frank: because gravity's pushing down on both of them at the same Right.
Frank: One's gonna maybe hit the ground a mile that way, but one's gonna hit the ground, but they would hit the ground at the same time.
Glenn: Yeah.
Frank: Is that right, Don?
Jake: I've read that,
Glenn: yeah.
Jake: Um, there's no way that's right
Frank: because the same energy is pushing down it. What is it? 9.8 meters per second square or something?
Frank: Pushing down. I don't know. That one came out of nowhere.
Glenn: If Gravity's real, we could go down that road.
Jake: Producer, producer Elise giving us a thumbs up that we're on the right track here.
Glenn: Yeah, we could.
Jake: Elise's been fact checking in the background this whole time.
Glenn: [00:30:00] Gra gravity's not proven either. Just so you guys know.
One is proven. They look it up, bro. They, they can't prove gravity. They've never been able to, they cannot, they cannot prove gravity. That's density. The cut the cup is heavier than air. So it falls.
So think about it. So, so Isaac Newton was full of, hold on. was full of shit.
No, no, no. Isaac Newton said that Apple fell for the tree, right? So he defined the force as gravity, but that force can definitely be density. But think about it this way. There's gravity that is holding the moon in place, okay?
It is pulling so hard that this interstellar planet. Can't move. Even though the sun is pulling with its gravity and it, and the, the, the combined force holds this planet in specific spot to where we can only see half of it. Right? That's what's happening with gravity. They say, but [00:31:00] yet I can take a feather.
Throw it up in the air or a balloon, or I can raise my leg. I can raise my arm. We're talking forces that are holding the planet in space, but it's not strong enough to hold my feet to the ground. Pretty interesting. Maybe I'm just out. I'm just stronger than gravity. I've adjusted, I've evolved. To where I am stronger than the force that's being used to hold a planet in space.
Maybe that's the case, but science cannot prove gravity.
Frank: Yeah, I mean, I get it. I mean, theories get debunked all the time. I mean, think about what they believed in 200 years ago compared to what we believe in now, and how many things have been debunked. I mean, who's the thinking? Another two to 300 years.
There's probably gonna be a lot of the stuff that we believe now. I can't believe those idiots believed in that. You know what I mean?
Glenn: That's a fair point. There's no doubt. That's what I believe, Frank. That's what I believe. I believe that, yeah. I guess how I'm a a conspiracy is
Frank: now just like that.
Glenn: I think it's conjecture.I think you're a questioner. I think it's conjecture [00:32:00] and people come to, they come to a conclusion based on what they know and understand, but, and then they call it science and they call it fact. And most of us just blindly follow. But the reality is what is considered science or fact today looks nothing like what was considered science or fact a hundred years ago,
Frank: and I'm already a little bothered in my mind about like the things I did believe in, like being questioned. So like, I probably won't get too far down this rabbit hole because I'm already, it's already like bothering me a little bit. Like, shoot, am I, if I can lied? Yeah. I feel like. Now I'm questioning things and it's causing me like more.
Jake: Well it's like your parents told you make that face, it's gonna stay that way.
Frank: Yeah.
Jake: Right. That's not true.
Frank: Right.
Jake: But the whole thing is
Frank: turn the light on in the car, the cops are gonna get you. Right. You tell your kids in the backseat like, Hey, if you keep that light on back there, you,
Jake: I believe that. I believe that one from my parents.
Glenn: Yeah, Frank, it's amazing that you're saying that. 'cause that's how I felt too, dude. I felt betrayed, like full on, betrayed when I [00:33:00] started discovering some of this stuff. I'm like. Bro, this is, and then I felt like a dumb ass because I just blindly accepted things. and then now I'm over here a space where I just like question everything.
Jake: Right? Well, the whole thing is look over here while they move something over here. Right? So there's always an ulterior motive, what, whatever it might be. Um, my question is with as busy of a schedule as you had, because every time I text you, every time I see you on LinkedIn, every time where like Glen Lundy's on a plane.
Not to mention the, the, the family life that, you know, we can talk about in a second. But where do you find time to research all this? Is this part of your morning routine? Is this just a, a hobby? A hobby? Like where, where does Glen Lundy find the time? 'cause I think for a lot of people it's like, it's an easy excuse.
Yeah. Right. Like, whether it's, again, working out, whether it's, you know, taking care of the physical, all that stuff. Like where do you find time? How do you manage, you know, your, your, your life to look into stuff like this and question stuff like this. [00:34:00]
Glenn: Uh, I'm a very curious person. Um, I'm a firm believer that the man with all the answers, the man with all the answers, never changes the world. It's the man with all the questions. Right? There's, um, there's a movie, um, uh, Elon Musk's favorite movie. Um. Galaxy, uh,
Jake: Elise, look it up.
Glenn: What is the name of that movie? Um,
Jake: not Galaxy Quest.
Glenn: No, no, no, no. It's, uh, anyway, hitchhiker Hitchhiker's Guides to the Galaxy. Okay. Okay. And in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, humanity wants to know the answer to everything.
Right. And so they build a super computer. That's gonna give [00:35:00] them the answer to like the meaning of life, right? And so they plug it in, like what is the meaning of life? And then like hundreds of years go by while this super computer's computing. And then at some point it comes with a result and all of humanity is there and it spits out the answer.
And the answer is 43. And everyone's like, what? 43. Like what the, what the hell does 43 mean? And the whole point, what the movie's trying to say is if you don't ask the right questions, you don't get the right answers. So just what is the meaning of life? Well, 43, well that doesn't mean anything if you can't really compute.
Like you should have been a little more specific. Right? And it took hundreds of years to get this answer. And so I just question, I like to ask questions 'cause I feel like transformation comes through the questions, not the answers. It's not about [00:36:00] having all the answers. It's about asking questions.
Asking questions. So my TikTok feed bro deep on all the things that people question. So it's filled with anywhere from five to eight minute long videos like my feed is not 15 second. You know, somebody doing dances in their living room. My feed is all like five to eight minute videos of people questioning things.
And so when I'm getting ready in the morning or I'm in the car or whatever, I'm flipping through there and I'm listening, and then if something peaks my curiosity, instead of just taking it at face value, I'll go dig a little bit. Man, I'll go dig and and do a little bit of research until I at least get to a point where.
I can, I can say, okay, I no longer believe that to be true. Now what it is, I don't know. And I'm not necessarily, like Frank said, I'm not gonna go spend my life trying to figure out whether they're flat or not. I don't care. But I do know that the bullshit, they're, they're feeding us is not real. And that's enough [00:37:00] for me to, uh, that's enough for me to, to not blindly be led by, you know, these, these people.
Frank: And then you think about even like the news today, I, I don't want, I don't listen to the news. I don't have social media like that. What are they really feeding us to? Like I do believe that, like that that all is fake. What else are they feeding us this?
Jake: Well, we've lost the ability. That's right. We've lost the ability to think for ourselves.I think what Glen is like, what I admire and I think more people need to do is like, why, like what, when I first met you, the first thing you told me was Jacob question everything.
Glenn: Everything.
Jake: Right. That was two years ago. And to this day, like that's still, that's still applies. Like you watch a media outlet from, you know, one side, you watch a media outlet from the other side.Yeah, right. But like, be a human and, and make your own decision. Right. And I think we've lost that a little bit.
Glenn: Mm-hmm. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say one thing that might upset some people and then I'll follow it with [00:38:00] another really quick thing. So, during CO right, during COVID, I had lots of questions. I had a lot of questions 'cause the, I just didn't feel like what they were dishing up wasn't adding up.
And I went online where there was all, because I kept hearing different numbers, right? They were saying this many people died, this many people died in this city. Like, I kept hearing all these different numbers, but I, but I wasn't experiencing that. Like that wasn't what was happening around me. Like my friends and family members weren't passing away in groves.
Like, it just wasn't my experience. And so I started typing into Google different numbers and I would just put in a number and then put COVID death and an article would pop up with that exact number, every number from one to 9,999, every number. There was an article somewhere in the media with that number [00:39:00] that specific, like I if you typed in 683, there was an article with 683.
You typed in 3,474. There was an article with 3,474. The media is a propaganda machine, bro, and it's them like we, we don't stand a chance when they have access. Facebook has access to a billion people, right? All these platforms have access to a billion people. We don't have a, we don't, we don't stand a chance against those machines.
So I will say that the second thing I wanted to share is going straight back to auto industry. In 1973, NADA wrote a guidebook on how to make a million dollars a year owning a car dealership, and in that guidebook it says that your salesperson should sell eight to 12 cars a month. Fast forward 52 years later.
This was before the internet, before all this stuff, right? This is 1973. [00:40:00] Fast forward 52 years later. How many cars does the average car salesman sell in automotive right now?
Frank: Eight to 12.
Glenn: Eight to 12, bro. Eight to 12. It is crazy. We got this. We can sell all over the world now you can do deliveries, right? And it just, it's just the same. Somebody wrote it in 73 that this is how it should be and 52 years later people are still living by it. That is true across the board, not just in business, but in, in our schools, in science, in a lot of different aspects of our lives. Somebody wrote it. It may have made sense at the time.
It probably was true at the time, but here we are 50 years later and we're just doing the same, same things, man. It's right.
Frank: No one's evolved.
Glenn: No one's evolved.
Frank: Sheep.
Jake: Sheep,
Frank: yeah.
Glenn: Ba.
Glenn: Crazy.
Jake: What, is there anything else on the conspiracy theory you want [00:41:00] to go to? 'cause we got a few more things that kind of dig in if we want to go there. But if we wanna stay on conspiracy theories, you tell me.
Glenn: Hey, you're the boss. You're, you're the boss.
Jake: Oh, don't say that're the
Glenn: host. I'm just, I'm just a guest here.
Jake: Don't say that. No. I mean, we could get into, and we talked to Moon Landing, I mean, one of the big ones you and I kind of talked about, you know, this is a little controversial. I believe it happened nine 11. Uh, the ulterior motive is what gets me on that one. I just think there's too many, too many things around it to, to, to be fact.
I mean, yes, there was a great loss of life. It's, it's one of the biggest tragedies in, in American history. But how do guys that have no flight experience successfully take over a plane alter course? Hit a, you know, a target. A big target. Sure. But for someone who's never had any experience in Glen, you're a pilot.
Like that's hard to do. Um, the building seven collapsing and a complete controlled demolition, um, just happened to be where all, you know, classified documents were kept, [00:42:00] you know, no plane parts found, you know, in the Pentagon. And then somehow we find a passport of one of the hijackers at ground zero, like.
That's the stuff that, that, and again, to Google, I mean, there's been several, you know, dozens of, of articles of like structural engineers saying like, Nope, there's no way this was, you know, there's no way that Jet Fuel would've burned the base of the World Trade Centers and would've made it collapse. So that's one that, that always gets me.
And I feel like there's a lot of people that feel some sort of way on that one. So I want to hear your, your thoughts on that.
Glenn: I mean, obviously nine 11 happened, right? Like
Jake: Absolutely,
Glenn: yes. Went down.
Jake: Everyone can say where they were, what they were doing.
Glenn: People lost their lives, right? Yep. Like it happened, um, how it happened and why it happened here.Here's, here's the thing. Most of the time I'll go as far as to say, [00:43:00] most of the time the story that we get told is not. The story now my whole family's military. Mm-hmm. Like I love and respect the military and I understand that if it wasn't for our military and if it wasn't for our government, we wouldn't have the opportunities and the freedoms that we have today.
Within that, I fully understand that I, as a non ranking military or government official, am lied to. I. I'm lied to. They, they, they have to lie to me at times in order to protect my freedoms, in order to protect this country and so on and so forth, right? So, nine 11, do I believe it happened the way they say it Did that two Iraqi terrorists took over planes, ran 'em into buildings and blew 'em up?
No. I, I, I don't think that that's what happened. [00:44:00] Do. Do I know that sometimes governments have to do things or that, um, allow things, if not do things themselves, but allow things to push bigger, you know, to solve bigger problems. Yeah. It's probably a pretty complicated space to be in, you know what I mean?
Like the decisions you have to make when you're that high, when you're talking about 300 million people, I think they have to probably make some per, so, so I'm not, I'm not justifying anything that they do. I'm just saying. I think that the stories we get told are about as much as they can tell us a lot of times, and they have to paint narratives, bro, they have to paint narratives.
So if two insurgents, which is the word they like to use, if two insurgents kill 5,000 Americans, then what do, what does America do? Go get 'em.
Jake: Go back at 'em. Go get 'em.
Glenn: We support. We support the war. Yeah, we support. We'll, hey, use our tax dollars. [00:45:00] Go get 'em
Frank: It's the American Way.
Glenn: All right. That's right.That's exactly right. Do you see what I'm saying? So if you watch, there's a movie called V for Vendetta. Have you ever watched Oh yeah. For Vendetta.
Frank: I love that movie. We just watched it recently.
Glenn: I think Vier vendetta. I have a kid born on the 5th of November, by the way. I'm like, remember, remember the 5th of November?
Yeah. Um, I think that that adequately points towards nine 11 and other experiences, like the government has to either do or allow things that most of us would consider horrendous for what they think is the greater good. Not saying that's okay or not okay, but I believe that that's what happens.
Jake: Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Glenn: And nine 11 I think was, was one of those things.
Jake: Fair enough.
Glenn: The, uh, Frank, so the, the basketball thing, the gambling thing. The insider thing. So a lot of people think that there's NFL is fixed in lots of different ways too. So I'm [00:46:00] curious from an insider, uh, you know, when you hear things like that, how does, how does that make you feel?
How do you respond to that? Could the refs be in on, it could be a bigger deal. Is it players like it is in the NBA? I'm curious man.
Frank: Um, o and again, I don't have a large grasp on what's going on. Only reason I know anything about it's Chauncey Billups is like a Detroit hero. Um, so I knew he was involved in it, and that's the extent of what I know about, uh, running poker games, doing little things.
Glenn: Yeah.
Frank: What I can tell you about the NFL is i, in my life, on my kids. Never once did we ever go into a game thinking about the score or thinking about, Hey, we should probably not score here or score here to give some type of spread, um, or do we not go into a game, not trying to score as many points as possible and let them score as least amount as possible?
So never once ever did I experience anything like that. Again, I was a mid-level guy, [00:47:00] low level. I wasn't the quarterback or the head coach or. That, but I would say so.
Very low, low, low percentage chance that anything like that's going on. The guys in the locker room are trying to win. They're trying to win a Super Bowl. Uh, what I experienced,
Jake: I did find something interesting. There's a mutual friend of mine who played in the NBA here in, in, uh, Oakland County, Michigan. We were playing golf. We talked about this 'cause it was very recent with the whole Chauncey Billups thing. He tried to go on DraftKings and BET basketball.
It would not let him put a bet in because they knew his name
Frank: recently. Now,
Jake: like within the last, like this was, um, uh, October, so very recently, it would not let him put a bet in. Now his name is not, you know, Steve Smith. So it's, it's a recognizable name, but to the point of, yeah, they would not let him put an NBA or even like obscure.
Uh, like overseas basketball because of the connections he may or may [00:48:00] not have. So I know that to be true.
Glenn: It's very,
Jake: that might've been a new crackdown, but who knows?
Frank: Yeah. I don't know. Again, I haven't thought about it enough, but like I've never been, like,
Frank: it'd be hard for a linebacker to like, Hey Frank, I'm gonna miss this tackle. Yeah. Let this guy go through or something. Nah, that's never happened. I'll tell you.
Glenn: Yeah. Some of these guys in the NBA Frank, just so you know, so they like say the over under would be like. That a guy was gonna score 20 points, right? An individual guy, uh, over, under on that. 'cause now with all these betting, you can bet you can bet on anything, dude, you can bet on the color of the Gatorade at the Super Bowl, right?
So it was like, uh, so say the over under was 20, like, this guy's gonna score less than 20 points or more than 20 points. And they would phone it in and say, bro, we need you to score less than 20. And so he'd go out and score like 18 points and then he'd twist his ankle. And be off. Yeah, it's, there's some sports that are easier to do.
It wasn't throwing the game, but he was throwing his individual performance.
Frank: The only way I thought about this is that you could have some type of [00:49:00] an edge is when I played like Andy Reed when they did like the first 15 plays you, he always had like a flavor guy, like flavor of the week where it'd be all of a sudden it's, Tyreek Hill is gonna be, he's gonna get eight or nine of the first 15 plays.
Are gonna be designed for Tyreek to get the ball. Or maybe it was another, like our third receiver, all of a sudden he's gonna be the guy like in that first 15. Um, so it's like, almost like who's gonna be the flavor of the week this week? And you may be able to be like, Hey, insider information to a buddy.
Be like, Hey, if I'm betting, you know, especially if it's a guy that's a high odds guy, that's so and so, the third receiver's gonna catch six 60 yards. And you could bet maybe you could have some type of advantage there by like inside info, but like.
Jake: Football's a hard sport to do that. Yeah, and to Glen's point, like basketball, you're like, oh, you got your over unders 22.
Glenn: Yeah,
Jake: you can convince a few a little easier and make it still look like you're trying. Right? Like, you know, you just go, you go cold for a little bit.
Glenn: Yeah. I don't know though. Those refs be making some bad calls against [00:50:00] teams playing the chiefs these last few years though, man. That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying this, the ref, it was out the players.
Frank: Now they're not getting those calls anymore, so now it must be a thing. Yeah. we, we feel like the Oakland Raiders right now, like, not gonna make the playoffs. Like what's going on?
Jake: Switching gears a little bit. This whole thing is, is dealer out of office. We've seen you in your element right in front of the squad, in front of the 800%.
I see you on the weekly calls, um, in person and, and when I said like the energy's there, the passion's there, um, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not putting any filler in. You're, you're, you're for real. Um. When you're at home, and I know your home life is, is a little hectic, what are you doing? What is Glen Lundy doing when he is out of the office?
He's trying to, you know, be with the family. What is, uh, what is the Lundy crew like to do? What are you guys doing when, uh, you know, it's not nine to five?
Glenn: My wife and I are playing zone defense at the house. 'cause we are, we are outnumbered. Um, [00:51:00] the inmates have definitely taken over the asylum, uh, as they say over at our spot.
So. Her and I are, are in survival mode a lot of the times just huddling together, uh, in a corner. You know, like, what did we do? What did we do? I definitely messed up.
uh, you know, I, I am a firm believer. I learned a long time ago that we should never spend. There's a big difference between the word spend and invest, and you guys have heard me talk about this.
Frank: Yep.
Glenn: Um, and so when I'm home, I'm making sure that every action or conversation is an investment with an expectation of a return. So it, that can look different all the time, right Jacob? So if I'm noticing them, I'm maybe not as connected with one of my kids as I would like to be, then I'll invest in doing [00:52:00] something that that kid.
Enjoys so that I can get a return. Um, if my wife maybe, maybe my wife, I can notice that she's overwhelmed or tired. Um, I mean, she's been breastfeeding or nursing, my wife has been breastfeeding or nursing all but like 20 months outta the last 17 years.
Frank: goodness
Glenn: So if she's like, if I notice she's tired or whatever, then you know, I might invest in.
Cleaning the living room just so that she has a, so when she walks out of the bedroom, it's not chaos. And maybe that little bit helps her mind. Right. So when I'm at home, those are kind of the things that I'm doing is I'm really, like, I don't have any real big outside hobbies or I'm not, you know, playing pickleball six hours a day like my B Frank used to do.
Um, I, I just, I'm, if I'm home, because I am on the road a lot and I do work a lot. When I'm home, I'm [00:53:00] really just investing in the relationships that I have with my kids and my wife and making sure that those are strong so that I can go out and do all the things that, that I need to do.
Jake: No love that we've had the privilege of, of, um, spending some time with a few of your children, you know, mayor, uh, Willow, who are just absolute
Frank: beyond their years.
Jake: Yeah. It's, it's, it's pretty incredible. So. Um, you know, it's like talking to a full blown adult. Seriously. So I guess my, my kind of question as we wrap this up is like, what are you doing? And I know, you know, you're investing time and is that just you and your wife? Um, you know, raising them to, to, to be like that?
Like, I mean, I got young kids, Frank's got young kids. I think there's a lot of people out here who are, who are busy, right? They're grinding, you know, 10, 12, 14 hour days and, and they still look at spending versus investing. So. From your point of view, like what's the single greatest thing you've done to, to, and maybe you can't say a single thing.
I don't know. [00:54:00] That's tough to do, but what you've instilled in your children to make them the way they are. 'cause truthfully, they are incredible kids. Like they, again, wise, beyond their years. It's, it's like talking to an adult, it's, it's, it's, it's incredible.
Glenn: Thanks, man. Um, I really appreciate that. Uh. Your kids, you want your kids to be a good representation of the, of the name, right?
Um, yep. There's a lot of power to that, so thank you for that. There's, there's a lot of different things that we do with our kids that feed into that. My wife homeschools all the kids. That's, that's been big. Um, none of my kids, well, Savannah just turned 16, so she's, she's the first kid in our house to get a smartphone.
Um, none of my kids have phones. Um. Yeah, we don't have a TV in our living room. We have TVs in the house, but we don't have one in the living room. That's the room where we have conversations with each other is in the living space. So there's like little things and stuff that, that we do there. Uh, I try to take them to [00:55:00] as many different things as I can once they're old enough, obviously.
Um, you know, to be in those environments, I think having 'em around guys like you and, and Frank and, um. Uh, you know, Royce and, and, and Danny's and Brian Benstock and, um, uh, the, the Lisa Copelands, you guys don't know her as much and Danelle Delgado's and mm-hmm. Uh, just having, having them around other great humans I think is really, really, really, really important.
Um, but if I had to narrow it down to kind of one thing, I would probably say the biggest thing that I've done with and for my kids to help shape them the way that they are. Is I treat them like individuals with an understanding that they are only in my care for a limited amount of time, and that [00:56:00] ultimately I was chosen to be their parent, but they are children of God.
They're God's child and he's gonna take 'em on whatever path it is and whatever journey they need to go on. And so all of my kids get, I make sure they feel seen, heard and significant. And I'm not trying to shape or mold them, I'm just trying to be an example for them and they're gonna take from that what they take, if that makes sense.
So we don't baby our kids, we don't helicopter parent our kids. You know, I'll tell you that the stove is hot and you shouldn't touch it, but I'm not gonna make you not touch it. If you go over there after I told you that it's hot and I told you it's gonna burn you and you go burn yourself, hey, that's the way you had to learn.
'cause we all have to learn a little bit differently. So we don't baby our kids. That is for sure. We don't childproof our house. We don't do none of that stuff. They swim in ponds, they ride four wheelers. They're [00:57:00] fricking, they're gritty, they're nitty gritty. They wanna go play in the mud, dude, go play in the mud, like let's go.
Um, they climb trees. All those types of things. So I think that's the best thing that we've done, is just allow them to grow and learn. In the way that God has planned for them so they can become the best versions of themselves they can possibly be. And we're just here to be guardrails and, uh, you know, hopefully catch 'em before they fall off a cliff.
Frank: Love that.
Jake: Yeah, I think we need a little more of that. Yeah. Um, alright man, well as we wrap up really quickly. You know where can, and, and our hope is that, you know, the, the, the dealer audience out here that we bring in, where can they find you? Where can they connect with you and your team? Because you have some absolute killers on your team that I know are just helping people left, right, and center.
Where can we find Glen Lundy in the 800% team?
Glenn: Oh, they probably don't wanna find me now. They're like, this dude's a Luna.
Jake: This guy's weird. I don't know. They,
Glenn: when they listen,
Frank: I see though, at the top of every dealer's list is like as a 800% [00:58:00] dealer group. That's true. So I'm sure they're gonna wanna see you.
Glenn: They're like, he thinks there earth is flat. He thinks 9 1 1 was nine 11 was a inside conspiracy. He questioned COVID. Like, this guy's a lunatic man. He doesn't give his kids cell phones. What's wrong with this guy? Um, Glen Lundy is my name, and I would love to connect and hook up whether you're in the auto industry or not.
Uh, all you gotta do is search my name. For some reason, no other Glen Lundy on Earth has decided to have a social media presence. So search Glen Lundy. You'll find me, man. You'll find me for sure, and I'd love to connect.
Jake: Love that man. Love it. Well, Glenn, I can't thank you enough. Um, it's been a pleasure these past two years, you know, um, from, from, you know, business to, to the friendship, um, we've created thus far.
Jake: And I'm excited to see where it goes from here. And just really thank you for doing this and, and wish you guys all the best, all the 800% people. Um, we couldn't be happier to, uh, to be a part of this, uh, journey with you guys.
Frank: A hundred percent. Thanks, man. Thank [00:59:00] you.